Modding a car...yay or nay?

Bear said:
Everyone is allowed their opinions, but on an open forum people are allowed to challenge it. In your own words, if you cant remember



If you cant understand why a 200bhp turbo RWD car cannot turn a corner at normal speeds without oversteer then its not about me making a prediction about your driving. You yourself have made it perfectly clear you didnt understand the mechanics of your own car. That is not the fault of the car but your lack of expeience.

As to the hype, I bought my car 7 years ago when there wasnt any hype about drifting so why would I care about it now. If you did buy into the hype then freaked yourself out because you couldnt handle it then more fool you.

Again, your car might have been a pile of **** but it doesnt mean everyone elses was.
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You're like a broken record, are you a real person or some kind of new forum virus? How many times do I have to repeat the car was mint, selective reading on you're part, they're just crap cars end of story stop being upset over my opinion, its a nice hot day so plenty of grip for that grim looking rear end, seriously what is it with that rear end :eek:

I'm bored of going round in circles with you, the cars crap, thats my opinion, you like it, thats your opinion everyones happy

Oh and try a Prelude one day, now theres a car with a proper engine that knows how to put its power down and its so much quicker and enjoyable to drive and you can drive it in the rain imagine that :eek:
 
Relentless81 said:
Oh and try a Prelude one day, now theres a car with a proper engine that knows how to put its power down and its so much quicker and enjoyable to drive and you can drive it in the rain imagine that :eek:
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This explains a lot. I quite like preludes but they're not especially quick and if you drove a 200sx in the same way as one it's no wonder you didn't like it. 200sx's are fairly easy to drive fast, but as with any reasonably powerful turbo car (with out t/c or 4wd) you'll break traction if you boot it mid corner. Even a fwd shopping car :) with a turbo engine will do the same.
 
Pre 99 isnt very quick, less power and longer gearing, the 99-00 models are quicker than an S14A on paper and on the road, I would know i've owned both so i'm speaking from the experiance of owning both cars and both were totally standard cars
 
Relentless81 said:
You're like a broken record, are you a real person or some kind of new forum virus? How many times do I have to repeat the car was mint, selective reading on you're part, they're just crap cars end of story stop being upset over my opinion, its a nice hot day so plenty of grip for that grim looking rear end, seriously what is it with that rear end :eek:

I'm bored of going round in circles with you, the cars crap, thats my opinion, you like it, thats your opinion everyones happy

Oh and try a Prelude one day, now theres a car with a proper engine that knows how to put its power down and its so much quicker and enjoyable to drive and you can drive it in the rain imagine that :eek:
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Its only sounding like a broken record because you are unable to accept that you bought into the hype of a car that was big on the drift scene and then complain that its tail happy. I mean seriously how stupid is that ?

Also the point I am trying to get into your thick skull is that your opinion of the car was due to your experience of YOUR car. Your opinion is that your car was crap. There are plenty that are more than happy with theirs. Even the reviews of the day said they were fun cars to drive and some said it had responsive handling, they definately didnt say it was a poor handling car.

I appreciate the Preludes strengths but I dont like the looks, I would rather an Integra type R but would have an s14a above both of them which was why I bought one.
 
Bear said:
Its only sounding like a broken record because you are unable to accept that you bought into the hype of a car that was big on the drift scene and then complain that its tail happy. I mean seriously how stupid is that ?

Also the point I am trying to get into your thick skull is that your opinion of the car was due to your experience of YOUR car. Your opinion is that your car was crap. There are plenty that are more than happy with theirs. Even the reviews of the day said they were fun cars to drive and some said it had responsive handling, they definately didnt say it was a poor handling car.

I appreciate the Preludes strengths but I dont like the looks, I would rather an Integra type R but would have an s14a above both of them which was why I bought one.
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:eek: Wow, you have got to be joking now, I mean again? Seriously?

It was I who said to you that these cars are only popular because the of drift scene fad and once again, how do you know the reason I bought the car? An assumption.

Again your saying my car was crap when you have never seen or driven it, an assumption

I form my opinion on this car based on the fact that I owned one and you are so offended by my opinion that you feel the need to argue it with an argument based on assumption

You dont like my opinion on the car thats fair enough people like different things its something you'll have to deal with, I like to try things out and wanted to own an RWD car for a bit, sadly I bought the wrong one and had a bad taste of RWD experiance, next time round it will be a BMW with a proper engine and before you assume yet again something about me, I have driven a few RWD cars including MR2 BMW and MX5
 
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Relentless81 said:
:eek: Wow, you have got to be joking now, I mean again? Seriously?

It was I who said to you that these cars are only popular because the of drift scene fad and once again, how do you know the reason I bought the car? An assumption.

Again your saying my car was crap when you have never seen or driven it, an assumption

I form my opinion on this car based on the fact that I owned one and you are so offended by my opinion that you feel the need to argue it with an argument based on assumption

You dont like my opinion on the car thats fair enough people like different things its something you'll have to deal with, I like to try things out and wanted to own an RWD car for a bit, sadly I bought the wrong one and had a bad taste of RWD experiance, next time round it will be a BMW with a proper engine and before you assume yet again something about me, I have driven a few RWD cars including MR2 BMW and MX5
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Do I really have to spell it out for you ?? The only person saying your car was crap is you. It is you that had a problem with your car only you cannot differentiate that because you had a problem with your car, you think it is all the cars. Yes it really is that simple.

I'll give you an example if it makes it easier for you. If I bought a Prelude and the one I bought kept breaking down, then I came on here saying they are **** because they are unreliable. That doesnt make all Preludes ****, it makes my Prelude ****. For all I know, the car could have been fine but I wringed the living hell out of it and it died, it doesnt make all Preludes ****. Understand ?

Me saying that it was your car that was crap was me reaffirming what you think about your own car. Do you understand now ??:rolleyes:

Also as said, I dont care whether you like the car or not. In fact I'm glad that the car was a flop because it made the car depreciate so badly I picked up a £24k car 3 years later for £7k.

You had a bad RWD experience with it probably because you tried to drive it like a linear powered NA and not a peaky turbo car. Also there havent been any assumptions, cars dont oversteer round corners on their own, they do it due to driver input, so as you say your car was mint then the only conclusion is it has to be YOU it cant be anything else !! Just man up and accept it, it is this I have a problem with.
 
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Relentless81 said:
:eek: Wow, you have got to be joking now, I mean again? Seriously?

It was I who said to you that these cars are only popular because the of drift scene fad and once again, how do you know the reason I bought the car? An assumption.

Again your saying my car was crap when you have never seen or driven it, an assumption

I form my opinion on this car based on the fact that I owned one and you are so offended by my opinion that you feel the need to argue it with an argument based on assumption

You dont like my opinion on the car thats fair enough people like different things its something you'll have to deal with, I like to try things out and wanted to own an RWD car for a bit, sadly I bought the wrong one and had a bad taste of RWD experiance, next time round it will be a BMW with a proper engine and before you assume yet again something about me, I have driven a few RWD cars including MR2 BMW and MX5
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What an apt username.
 
Bear said:
Do I really have to spell it out for you ?? The only person saying your car was crap is you. It is you that had a problem with your car only you cannot differentiate that because you had a problem with your car, you think it is all the cars. Yes it really is that simple..

I'll give you an example if it makes it easier for you. If I bought a Prelude and the one I bought kept breaking down, then I came on here saying they are **** because they are unreliable. That doesnt make all Preludes ****, it makes my Prelude ****. For all I know, the car could have been fine but I wringed the living hell out of it and it died, it doesnt make all Preludes ****. Understand ?

Me saying that it was your car that was crap was me reaffirming what you think about your own car. Do you understand now ??:rolleyes:

Also as said, I dont care whether you like the car or not. In fact I'm glad that the car was a flop because it made the car depreciate so badly I picked up a £24k car 3 years later for £7k.

You had a bad RWD experience with it probably because you tried to drive it like a linear powered NA and not a peaky turbo car. Also there havent been any assumptions, cars dont oversteer round corners on their own, they do it due to driver input, so as you say your car was mint then the only conclusion is it has to be YOU it cant be anything else !! Just man up and accept it, it is this I have a problem with
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I'm starting to think you're a bit special now. Yeah the only person saying the car is crap is me, because thats my opinion of the car, seriously how many times do I have tyo say its my opinion I just said it in my last post that its my opinion damn whats wrong with you! :eek:

My S14A didnt break down, where did I say it broke down? Why are you talking about Preludes breaking down, WTF are you talking about you weirdo?

Once again you are making assumptions on how I drive, once again I have to repeat myself because you're such a special boy you havent been able to take in what I have said even though I have repeated it so many times now that I just cant understand how you havent absorbed this very basic information. You cannot possibly know how I drive, you have never been in a car with me, its impossible for you to know!!!!! The bad RWD experiance was down to the bad example of a so called performance RWD car, repeating myself again the car is crap, it handles very badly, its power delivery is boring, its riddle with common documented faults on SXOC for all to see, they rust, they have an awful interior with terrible leather, the dials and interior fittings are cheap and nasty the rear end of the car was probably designed by you TBH as the front end is really nice but whoever mated that rear to the rest of the car also has serious mental problems

So i'm going to repeat myself again, because you have selective reading issues when it comes to my posts and are obviously not taking this information in, I have all day in the most boring job in world so I dont mind repeating myself over and over and over again for the special people. I have driven numerous RWD cars, inc BMW's, MR2 and MX5 (remember when I said this in my last post) all great cars and were fun to drive, the beemers werent as fun as the others but they werent supposed to be, the MR2's and MX5's were great fun the S14A was a steaming pile of turd in comparison

Seriously you really need to get over the fact that I dont like the car, you are really being defensive over my opinion of the car and its a bit weird TBH, most people would just say "meh I like it" and crack on with their lives

I hope you read that properly and didnt get all angry and jump to replying with assumptions of things that you couldnt possibly know

Simon said:
What an apt username.
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It is indeed.
 
Simon said:
Those who protest the most are usually the most guilty
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Not sure how you can be guilty over an opinion, I dont see why I should be told my car wasnt in mint condition when it was and when I cant drive when the guy cant possibly know that theres nothing to be guilty about, if i'd been saying these things and not owned the car then fair enough but I had one for three months so i'm fairly sure I can justify forming an opinion on the car, seriously read his arguments, its all based on the assumption that I dont know how to drive or my car was in bad condition my argument is based on fact.

Is this a clique now, do I have low posts therefore my argument is invalid :(
 
The way you keep going on about it, its relentless, almost like someone trying to convince themself more than anyone else it seems.
 
Simon said:
The way you keep going on about it, its relentless, almost like someone trying to convince themself more than anyone else it seems.
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I'm the one going on about it? What about the other guy who is repeating the same argument based on assumptions over and over and not reading my posts and taking in the fact that I have said many times now that its just my opinion of the car, there are plenty of people out there who think they are great however I do not

I dont see why I should stop replying when I have mentioned nothing incorrect what so ever and the other guy can only base an argument on assumption
 
MrLOL said:
there is very little about Bear's knowledge of the 200sx that is" assumed" your picking on the wrong guy.
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Have you read this properly? I was wondering when the clique might turn up.

I didnt question his knowledge on the 200SX did I. I am not picking on anyone I am defending my opinion.

Its blatently obvious that when I say assumptions I am reffering to him talking about the condition of my car and my ability to drive it. I mean its not like I havent said that over ten times now :confused:
 
Relentless81 said:
I'm the one going on about it? What about the other guy who is repeating the same argument based on assumptions over and over and not reading my posts and taking in the fact that I have said many times now that its just my opinion of the car, there are plenty of people out there who think they are great however I do not

I dont see why I should stop replying when I have mentioned nothing incorrect what so ever and the other guy can only base an argument on assumption
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Try re-reading my post and your answer to it. It is not me that has trouble reading.

I keep having to repeat things because you are unbelieveably blinkered to reality. If your car is mint and you have problems oversteering round corners at normal speed as you say you do 9seems a reocurring problem), then if it isnt the car and it isnt you, then WTF can it be ?? The oversteering fairies ? Cars oversteer badly either because there is a fault with the car OR it is the driver or occaisonally its diesel ;). You saying it is neither no matter how many times you would like to repeat it is BS. It HAS to be one or the other. Cars just dont oversteer with no fault or input, it is a physical impossibility.

If its genuinely neither as you claim then it can only be an external circumstance like diesel in which case it is hardly the cars fault.

It is hardly assumption. When the variables are limited it can only be one of these things the question is which of them is it. you seem to say it is none of them which I have trouble believing
 
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I know I said I could carry on all day and I dont mind repeating myself but i'm genuinely bored of this now. I dont like the car for the reasons I have mentioned, you do, happy days.
 
I was all for giving this up but what about the personal attacks on me?

I'm the one who has repeatedly tried to diffuse this

What is it with the selective reading in this section
 
Relentless81 said:
Dunlop Rain Sport tyres all round
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Dunlop do not make a tyre called 'Rain Sport'.

I think given that it seems you have no real idea what tyres you had fitted, its safe to assume you have a similar level of knowledge about the rest of the things on your car.

Therefore I am inclined to beleive that the clued up one in this thread is Bear.
 
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