Modding a car...yay or nay?
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In my eyes is not worth it, you never make a return on them and you limit the market when coming to sell, just buy the sports/fast model and be done with it.
The only way you will make any money if you sell to another enthusiast but the whole point of "modding" is doing it yourself and seeing the results so its a very niche market.
The only way you will make any money if you sell to another enthusiast but the whole point of "modding" is doing it yourself and seeing the results so its a very niche market.
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PTUUUUUUSHHHHHHHHHHH
Sorry, but loud dump valves just make you look like a tard, and seeing it on other cars doesn't make it good.
Waste of money!
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POS x infinity
There was nothing wrong with it, it was a minter, I only buy mint condition cars not the first dog that comes along like you're average "driftin init blud" champion, and your quite right it didnt suit my driving style because I will never understand the point in a 200BHP car that you cant drive in the wet in straight line without the back end snaking or turning a corner normally at normal speeds without excessive overstear or even starting the thing up without it rattling so loud it sounds like you're dragging a can of coke cans behind you and its deemed "normal" for it to do this!! Or having your rev counter bounce about like its on acid and its apparently a "common fault"
Meh
If I was in my old S14A and it was on fire and I needed a wee and the only way to survive was to wee everywhere to put the fire out, i'd let the car and myself burn, the car to rid the world of such a POS and me as a lesson for buying such a POS
less is more. leave it alone
There was something seriously wrong with it. With even cheap decent tyres (FK452's) mine with 250bhp was perfectly stable in a straight line in the wet from about 3rd up and I never had problems with corners in it. I used to lend it to my mum occasionally ffs as it was so easy to drive.
If the rattle was loud enough to sound like "you're dragging a can of coke cans" then there was something wrong with it. VVT rattle isn't all that loud, certainly not to the point where it can be heard inside the car or even really outside the car with the bonnet down.
It sounds pretty clear your car wasnt a minter, by your own admission it had a problem with the rev counter and had serious problems with a very bad rattle.
As to the comment about not suiting your driving style, it was a polite way of saying that you either dont know how to drive sensibly or you actually drive like an end of a bell. Having driven a standard s14a in the wet for quite a long time, I never had any of the problems you speak of but then I dont drive like a moron in the wet because I understand the concept of the decreased coefficient of friction that comes with rain. Fit high quality tyres to the car and drive like a mature adult in the rain, learn how to modulate the throttle properly instead of thinking its either fully on or off and all is well.
It looks pretty clear that the problem was either your car had major problems or that the problem was with the driver, bad workman and all that. Maybe a mixture of both even.
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It sounds pretty clear your car wasnt a minter, by your own admission it had a problem with the rev counter and had serious problems with a very bad rattle.
As to the comment about not suiting your driving style, it was a polite way of saying that you either dont know how to drive sensibly or you actually drive like an end of a bell. Having driven a standard s14a in the wet for quite a long time, I never had any of the problems you speak of but then I dont drive like a moron in the wet because I understand the concept of the decreased coefficient of friction that comes with rain. Fit high quality tyres to the car and drive like a mature adult in the rain, learn how to modulate the throttle properly instead of thinking its either fully on or off and all is well.
It looks pretty clear that the problem was either your car had major problems or that the problem was with the driver, bad workman and all that. Maybe a mixture of both even.
The problem with the rev counter is a common fault its on SXOC have a read up, VVT rattle is louder on warm starts it used to get on my nerves have a look on SXOC I cant beleive you dont know your own cars
How do you know it wasnt a minter? Did you see it? Did you drive it? No you didnt so the hell do you know?
Oh I see that you know exactly how I drive through the powers of the internets even though you have never been in a car with me, thats amazing how do I gain these powers of which you speak?
I've owned numerous performance cars and the S14A was the worse one I have owned, full history, not a mark on it, one previous owner, HPI clear with a full RAC check including mechanical inspection, Dunlop Rain Sport tyres all round it was a mint example of a terrible performance car but oh wait you knew this "through the powers of the internets"
Lets be honest they stopped manufacturing them in 1999 but they were such a flop that were still for sale and registered right up until 2001 I can understand you being defensive but dont be naive too thats just pathetic
The problem with the rev counter is a common fault its on SXOC have a read up, VVT rattle is louder on warm starts it used to get on my nerves have a look on SXOC I cant beleive you dont know your own cars
How do you know it wasnt a minter? Did you see it? Did you drive it? No you didnt so the hell do you know?
Oh I see that you know exactly how I drive through the powers of the internets even though you have never been in a car with me, thats amazing how do I gain these powers of which you speak?
I've owned numerous performance cars and the S14A was the worse one I have owned, full history, not a mark on it, one previous owner, HPI clear with a full RAC check including mechanical inspection, Dunlop Rain Sport tyres all round it was a mint example of a terrible performance car but oh wait you knew this "through the powers of the internets"
Lets be honest they stopped manufacturing them in 1999 but they were such a flop that were still for sale and registered right up until 2001 I can understand you being defensive but dont be naive too thats just pathetic
I have no interest whether you liked the car or not as I am not insecure about my car choice, people like certain cars and some people dont its that simple. My comments were made because you are talking out of your backside saying the s14a handled like a POS which it certainly doesnt.
If all you can complain about the handling was that you couldnt drive as fast as you wanted in the wet, it kind of spells out your mentality quite clearly.
I totally agree that the 200Sx was a flop in the UK mainly because the car was quite expensive, looked anoymous and was pitched up against better competition in the market segment it was in.
My car is now 10 years old and I have owned it for 7 of those years and it doesnt suffer from either of the faults you complained of, nor did it suffer from the handling problems you spoke of. Perhaps I bought the minter
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The problem with the rev counter is a common fault its on SXOC have a read up, VVT rattle is louder on warm starts it used to get on my nerves have a look on SXOC I cant beleive you dont know your own cars
How do you know it wasnt a minter? Did you see it? Did you drive it? No you didnt so the hell do you know?
Oh I see that you know exactly how I drive through the powers of the internets even though you have never been in a car with me, thats amazing how do I gain these powers of which you speak?
I've owned numerous performance cars and the S14A was the worse one I have owned, full history, not a mark on it, one previous owner, HPI clear with a full RAC check including mechanical inspection, Dunlop Rain Sport tyres all round it was a mint example of a terrible performance car but oh wait you knew this "through the powers of the internets"
My own s14 was nowhere near mint and other than a dodgy rev counter didn't have any of the problems you mentioned so either yours was even worse or you couldn't drive it. I'm guessing the later as you were presumably used to low torque na fwd and tried to drive it as such. Rwd cars (without traction control) demand a different approach.
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I have no interest whether you liked the car or not as I am not insecure about my car choice, people like certain cars and some people dont its that simple. My comments were made because you are talking out of your backside saying the s14a handled like a POS which it certainly doesnt.
If all you can complain about the handling was that you couldnt drive as fast as you wanted in the wet, it kind of spells out your mentality quite clearly.
I totally agree that the 200Sx was a flop in the UK mainly because the car was quite expensive, looked anoymous and was pitched up against better competition in the market segment it was in.
My car is now 10 years old and I have owned it for 7 of those years and it doesnt suffer from either of the faults you complained of, nor did it suffer from the handling problems you spoke of. Perhaps I bought the minter
We are going to go around in circles in here and therefore its pointless as I can only repeat myself, I will repeat that the common faults are mentioned in great detail from many S14 owners so the info is there for you to see
There is always the same reaction when you slate an S14A for the shower of **** that it is and thats along the lines of "OMG you cant drive RWD" like you need some kind of gifted skill from the gods that obviously you have been gifted with from birth and I havent, "why me oh mighty RWD gods" "why couldnt I be gifted with these skills at birth"
You dont know me, you dont know what cars I have owned, all you know is I have owned an S14A that I claim to be in mint condition with common faults that are mentioned in great detail on SXOC and because I slate the car all you can come back with is...
"It must have been a crap example"
"You cant drive the almighty S14A"
Seriously, I repeat the fact that your argument is pathetic as its based on presumptions and not fact, get over it.
Only a complete idiot would take that top gear episode and think that was representative of car modifying. I mean come on, who the **** would mod an Avantine for speed ??
I agree it is money down the drain though.
There is always the same reaction when you slate an S14A for the shower of **** that it is and thats along the lines of "OMG you cant drive RWD" like you need some kind of gifted skill from the gods that obviously you have been gifted with from birth and I havent, "why me oh mighty RWD gods" "why couldnt I be gifted with these skills at birth"
Seriously, I repeat the fact that your argument is pathetic as its based on presumptions and not fact, get over it.
Well its funny you get a section of people who get the "Oh I hit a patch of diesel and wrote my car off" every winter. Its never that they drive like idiots in adverse conditions.
My opinion is that your arguement is pathetic because there are plenty of people that drive these cars without complaint including my wife and the most powerful thing she had driven previously was a 100bhp Polo TDi sport.
I understand that it is a challenge to your manhood to be told that you arent a good driver but just get some driver training and learn from it. It can only improve your road safety awareness and the safety of other drivers that are sharing the road with you.
[TW] Fox on here had an off in his 5 series BMW and he was big enough to say it was down to driver error. He didnt sell it and then say it handled like a POS.
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Sorry I dont recall crashing it, I do recall selling the worse overhyped car I have ever owned and getting my money back of which I was very very very happy about 
Sorry I dont recall crashing it, I do recall selling the worse overhyped car I have ever owned and getting my money back of which I was very very very happy about
There was no hype about the car which was why it floped in the UK as you yourself mentioned. The fact you have now resorted to childish comments like "worse overhyped car" speaks volumes about you.
As a side note, I dont claim to be a RWD God. In fact I would genuinely rate myself as pretty average in terms of driving skill. What I do understand is why a 200bhp turbo RWD car without traction control oversteers in the wet, and that is not to put too much power down in a corner so the torque of the turbo breaks the traction of the rear tyres and hence induces a slide. To make sure that doesnt happen is to drive sensibily in the wet, it really is that simple. Understand the physics of the car and dont blame the car for your short comings.
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Oh STFU and stop going on with yourself you're boring me i'm not interested in the car and i'm done with slating it obviously the hype is the whole drifting thing not from when it was released.
Again you make predicitions on my driving and you have never been in a car with me, it is not possible to know how I drive through the internet so stop repeating the same thing over and over
The car is a steaming pile of ****, i've owned one i'm entitled to my opinion on it, if your defensive about it then fair enough but you are repeating the same tired argument based on assumptions which I repeat yet again, its pathetic!
Leave me to my opinion, you enjoy your car.
Again you make predicitions on my driving and you have never been in a car with me, it is not possible to know how I drive through the internet so stop repeating the same thing over and over
The car is a steaming pile of ****, i've owned one i'm entitled to my opinion on it, if your defensive about it then fair enough but you are repeating the same tired argument based on assumptions which I repeat yet again, its pathetic!
Leave me to my opinion, you enjoy your car.
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Everyone is allowed their opinions, but on an open forum people are allowed to challenge it. In your own words, if you cant remember
If you cant understand why a 200bhp turbo RWD car cannot turn a corner at normal speeds without oversteer then its not about me making a prediction about your driving. You yourself have made it perfectly clear you didnt understand the mechanics of your own car. That is not the fault of the car but your lack of expeience.
As to the hype, I bought my car 7 years ago when there wasnt any hype about drifting so why would I care about it now. If you did buy into the hype then freaked yourself out because you couldnt handle it then more fool you.
Again, your car might have been a pile of **** but it doesnt mean everyone elses was.
Definitely less hassle!