Monaco Grand Prix 2011, Monte-Carlo - Race 6/19

el_dazza said:
The only decent move he made was on Schumacher into Ste Devote, .
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You mean the exact same pass that he attempted on Maldonado? :rolleyes:

oh wait...

I will say it again. The only difference between the two incidents is that Schumi had the awareness to realise Hamilton was next to him and not to completely close Hamilton off the track.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Becuase ms gave him room. Where was hammy meant to go? He was as far over as he could. Be and on full lock. Even slamming on the breaks to a full stop wouldn't of got him out of there.
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Then, ya know.. Don't go for it? :/

Picking your time to attack is a quality of excellent drivers, this wasn't his greatest choice..

Jono8 said:
It was exactly the same though. Schumi just had the awareness to see Hamilton was next to him and therefore not to turn in stupidly early and cause a collision.
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Schumacher's tyres were pretty screwed at the time and iirc he'd lost a bit of grip going into the corner so took the sensible option. That was a more calculated move.
 
el_dazza said:
Then, ya know.. Don't go for it? :/

Picking your time to attack is a quality of excellent drivers, this wasn't his greatest choice..
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So. Never go for an over take at Monaco?
Several over takes happened in identical ways and worked, because the other driver realised that someone was there and gave enough room.
So either you go for it or you might as well ban overtaking at such a race track.
 
el_dazza said:
Schumacher's tyres were pretty screwed at the time and iirc he'd lost a bit of grip going into the corner so took the sensible option. That was a more calculated move.
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how was it more calculated? If MS had done the same, Hamilton would have hit and had a third penalty.
 
I'm sorry but Maldonaldo had track position, how was this incident going to end in anything but Ham smashing into the side.
Should Maldonaldo just jam on the brakes and let this other car by? No, of course he shouldn't. Hamilton needs to shut his gob and drive the car, he must have lost a few off his devoted followers this weekend.
"The team suck, the stewards are awful, the track is a disgrace, every other driver is rubbish."
Dry your eyes Ham, shut your mouth and do your job. Maybe try and accept blame or praise the team at some points...

Like I said before this race weekend, I'd be happy to see Monaco off the calendar. It's good to see the cars drive round it and we can get some interesting things happen but it's in no way appropriate for a modern F1 car.

An interesting race, an anti-climax of an end, luck fell Vettel's way. You could argue that half of F1 is luck sometimes. Can't complain about it though, it worked this way and I'd say that in it's own unique way, this was an entertaining watch.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
An interesting race, an anti-climax of an end, luck fell Vettel's way. You could argue that half of F1 is luck sometimes. Can't complain about it though, it worked this way and I'd say that in it's own unique way, this was an entertaining watch.
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You need a bit of luck in everything in life, when it's out of your hands all you can do is be thankful. Fate's a wonderful thing - if Vettel's stop hadn't been ballsed up, would all this have worked out the same.. who knows :)
 
englishpremier said:
Nonsense. The Perez incident wasn't nice, but the Petrov one, as Martin said could have happened at any track on the calendar it was a racing incident.
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Modern F1 (last 5-10 years) has seen much worse than the Perez incident. Kubica in Canada is a much bigger example of 200mph and being fine to race the next weekend (but was forced to sit out as a safety precaution). Hekki in Barca a few years back was much worse too.

Everyone who's saying one big accident=shouldn't go to the track needs to seriously think about all the places that have had massive accidents (as its about all the tracks that haven't been stuck up in the middle of no where in a country that doesn't watch F1). F1 is massively safe and that's what makes Monaco fine.

Petrov could have done that anywhere, and did in Malaysia :p
 
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