Monaco Grand Prix 2011, Monte-Carlo - Race 6/19

3dcandy · 29 May 2011 at 20:17

My beef about Hammy is he just comes across as a spoilt schoolkid sometimes. He's in a great team, gets paid loadsa money, and then when he balls up he can't seem to say "Sorry...screwed up!" without losing his toys. Compare with Di Resta....chalk and cheese

Glaucus · 29 May 2011 at 20:19

3dcandy said:
My beef about Hammy is he just comes across as a spoilt schoolkid sometimes. He's in a great team, gets paid loadsa money, and then when he balls up he can't seem to say "Sorry...screwed up!" without losing his toys. Compare with Di Resta....chalk and cheese

have you watched the replays?
He has said he's stuffed up in the past.

3dcandy · 29 May 2011 at 20:21

Yes...thus the wording with a sometimes in it. Having a go at the stewards saying it's a joke isn't going to help him much now is it?

Glaucus · 29 May 2011 at 20:22

Of course not, but anger is good. Especially when it's been 5 out of 6 races.

Freeman · 29 May 2011 at 20:23

This may have been quoted already, but I can't agree more. And I just hope Hamilton doesn't listen to his critics.

"Lewis had a frustrating afternoon," said Whitmarsh. "I guess the reality is that, if you start anywhere other than at the front of the grid here in Monte Carlo, you're always going to run the risk of getting involved in incidents - especially if, like Lewis, you're a forceful driver who never, ever, gives up.

"But that's Lewis. That's why he's such a fantastic driver – and that's why watching him race is so thrilling. So, yes, he's disappointed, because he's been seriously quick all weekend here, but that's Monte Carlo; that's racing; that's life."

deuse · 29 May 2011 at 20:24

The post race press conference.
For Alonso
Q: So you were really going to have a go at him, were you?(meaning Vettel)
FA: Of course, yes. There is nothing to lose for me. I am not leading the championship so I will try to win the race and if we crash we crash.

Same as Lewis glad we still have two racers left in F1

Dave M · 29 May 2011 at 20:25

I guess Hamilton is known for running his mouth after a bad race (blaming his team, other drivers, anything) but I fear he will have upset a lot of the high ups today.

I'd also say Di-resta was far more fool hardy than Hamilton today, but he's a rookie not a world champion, Hamilton is going to be held to higher standards.

Glaucus · 29 May 2011 at 20:25

Agree and if he wasn't such driver. He wouldn't be a world champion.

3dcandy · 29 May 2011 at 20:27

AcidHell2 said:
Of course not, but anger is good. Especially when it's been 5 out of 6 races.

And when he gets penalty after penalty making him more angry? I'm all for anger helping a driver but he's made himself look rather silly this weekend blaming all and sundry. I'm not a Hamilton fan, met him and thought he was a complete ***k, and that is why I don't like him. However, I'm also for someone who respects their sport and thinks before they open their trap

Freeman · 29 May 2011 at 20:27

Telescopi said:
I guess Hamilton is known for running his mouth after a bad race (blaming his team, other drivers, anything) but I fear he will have upset a lot of the high ups today.

I'd also say Di-resta was far more fool hardy than Hamilton today, but he's a rookie not a world champion, Hamilton is going to be held to higher standards.

I hope we see more of that kind of aggressive driving from Di-resta (minus the crashes). I have high hopes for the guy and hopefully he can get himself into a better car. Maybe take Massa's place...?

mmj_uk · 29 May 2011 at 20:28

LizardKing said:
Massa saw Hamilton and turned in on him leaving him no where to go.

Yep because the defending drivers know that if they simply hold the racing line and cause a collision the attacking driver will more often than not be penalised, it's all wrong for a sport that wants to encourage more overtaking... Rosberg could have done the same thing to Schumacher but that wouldn't have exactly been very good for the team so he gave him space as racing drivers should.

There is a point where the driver in front should just accept that they don't have track position and give way but while ever the stewards are penalising the attacking driver they will continue to hold the line regardless of if another car is there.

Slam62 · 29 May 2011 at 20:32

well I looked at those videos and I just don't think he was far enough alongside to overtake, his front wheel hit the side pod of Massa and the back wheel of Maldonado.

I am disappointed with Hammi to be honest he seems to be getting very desperate early on this year.

I think he needs a change, his first two years in F1 spoilt him.

I don't think he was joking either....

Glaucus · 29 May 2011 at 20:32

3dcandy said:
And when he gets penalty after penalty making him more angry? I'm all for anger helping a driver but he's made himself look rather silly this weekend blaming all and sundry. I'm not a Hamilton fan, met him and thought he was a complete ***k, and that is why I don't like him. However, I'm also for someone who respects their sport and thinks before they open their trap

Except he's right, look at the replays, even with hitting hammy, maldanado didn't make the apex.

LizardKing · 29 May 2011 at 20:34

Did i miss something? i heard Hamilton blame the team over the qualifying incident on Saturday but praised them after the race. If the team kept him in in Q3 then surely that's well founded? just dont say so on live tv

All i saw was DC proclaiming he always blamed the team when he should look in the mirror more. But the reality of it is he didn't? :confused:

Think i'm gonna have to watch the forum again.

Jono8 · 29 May 2011 at 20:34

AcidHell2 said:
Except he's right, look at the replays, even with hitting hammy, maldanado didn't make the apex.

Exactly. Imagine how much he would have cut the corner if Lewis wasnt there!

dannyjo22 · 29 May 2011 at 20:35

ZG002 said:
Was just going to post that idea, but thought I'd be mocked. It's a shame this track has to have an effect on the championship.

I said that before the race and was mocked. It's a **** track. Yes it's a spectacle to watch the cars blat round near the railings but it's not a race track.

10 million prize money and gtfo the calendar.

JRS said:
1988 World Sportscar Champion
1988 Daytona 24 Hrs winner
1990 Le Mans 24 Hrs winner
Only British driver to ever win an IROC race

You were saying?

Yeah some only watch F1 they have no idea motorsport exists outside of the F1 paddock. Some actually believe these numpties are the best drivers on earth.

AcidHell2 said:
IMO and others it's clearly a joke. But foolish words and will be back to bite him.

Joke my backside, it's a get out. The mood he was in he wasn't joking.

Good race by Button, shame he didn't get the win. Yet again Alonso shows why in equal equipment over a season he would beat anyone. In 10 years time hamilton hopefully will have the same maturity. I think Hamilton is as fast but lacks the brains and calmness over a season of Alonso.

Dunks · 29 May 2011 at 20:37

AcidHell2 said:
Head in hands?, he's cracking open the champaign. Overtime and job security for that fella.

LizardKing · 29 May 2011 at 20:38

mmj_uk said:
Yep because the defending drivers know that if they simply hold the racing line and cause a collision the attacking driver will more often than not be penalised

He drove off the racing line though, ok he was still in front but there was no way he was going to make the apex with that angle, I'd be more sympathetic if he had held the line as then it would have been 100% Hamilton.

3dcandy · 29 May 2011 at 20:39

AcidHell2 said:
Except he's right, look at the replays, even with hitting hammy, maldanado didn't make the apex.

I guess we'll have to differ on this matter then...I feel he was desperate all race, and so did the pundits. The bit I disliked was his post race interview, and hope he gets some punishment for bringing the sport into disrepute, although I doubt that would stop him being smug...

Kenai · 29 May 2011 at 20:40

Bringing the sport into disrepute?

Jesus, talk about melodrama