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There are, they can make a much longer track on wider streets, but remember there's some 30,000 residents that need to get around, do their shopping, go out to eat etc.. that gets difficult when areas are closed.
Poll: Monaco Grand Prix 2022, Circuit de Monaco - Race 7
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There are, they can make a much longer track on wider streets, but remember there's some 30,000 residents that need to get around, do their shopping, go out to eat etc.. that gets difficult when areas are closed.
Indeed, Hamilton did this exact same thing in Abu Dhabi in 2016, trying to get the Ferraris past Rosberg. Schumacher produced a masterclass of it at Sepang in 1999, trying to help Irvine keep his championship hopes alive. I'm sure it's happened on numerous other occasions too which don't as readily come to mind.
I think the Alpine tactic was to ensure both Alonso and Ocon had enough tyres left at the end so they could both pump in big enough laps so that Ocon might stay in the points, but it didn't work out. No harm in trying though.
I think people are crying because it's not exactly in the spirit of the race is it? I can't remember the examples above because I have a brain like a sieve but it sounds like there was more at stake than giving your teammate a measly point or two in race 7 of the calendar which is apparently what Alonso was doing
Although the way the commentators explained it, it actually sounds like Alonso just knew he couldn't fight in front so gave up and decided to annoy everyone behind him. Not cool.I personally dont think Monaco will disappear from the calendar. It may be terrible for TV viewers, but I'm sure it makes enough money and brings enough glamour to the sport on the ground there to warrant it.
Seems like a massively misguided attempt by Alpine then. Yes, Alonso might have been saving tyres, but it was clearly extreme to the point of being silly. Having him go that slowly only served to almost garauntee no points for Ocon.
In the end only because Hamilton couldn't keep up with Alonso when Alonso let it off the leash near the end. Ocon was right up with Hamilton at the finish, so that shows what the plan was.
It did seem a bit excessive for one or two points, but I suppose they had their fun and it would have made no difference to the finishing order anyway.
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I completely forgot about Monaco. Tuned in last minute into the usual F1 farce. It was fun watching them drive in the rain, but modern F1 seems mostly rain averse, despite ‘extreme’ wet tyres. Once it dried out it turned into the usual Monaco procession with comical decisions throughout. It seems to have coincided well with my sky contract ‘renewal’ this week. I was torn on the decision last year, but not so much this year. I used to love the sport, but it irritates me more than gives me enjoyment these days. I would recommend SkyF1 for anyone who still enjoys it though, the UHD feed is glorious.
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For me now Monaco should be considered as a final race procession, just like the last stage of the Tour de France
I think Hamilton may have done that on purpose and played them at their own game. After all, Ocon wrecked his race.
I'm convinced it was all silly games. They will never admit it, but I think it's pretty obvious.
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Even DRS doesn’t bring the cars anywhere near to being able to overtake. Too many times we’ve seen cars with mechanical issues or no tyres left, lapping somewhere 3-4s slower than everyone else blocking the way. You only have to move over the tiniest bit to prevent an attack, if anything the FIA should enforce weaving even more strictly in Monaco since the margins are smaller. From a racing perspective Monaco doesn’t work and hasn’t done so for years. The last time I remember true racing was back in the Hill/Schumacher era and even then I probably don’t remember it correctly.
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Exactly, so if they won’t bin this race off the calendar, they should use it as a final race procession
Keep quali but the lineup on Sunday is based on the WDC standings at the penultimate race and no points are awarded — that could actually work.
Corrected that a bit for you
For every one fan who moans, bet there are a thousand who don' t moan because they love it, so have nothing to moan about.
Same with so many things, the vocal minority get all the attention , while the vast majority are just sitting back quiet.
Either that or Hamilton just suffered much more wear trying to attack Alonso.
I don't know. Monaco is almost always in the bottom 3 on ranking lists. And you don't see the kind of dislike against many other tracks. A few. But not many.
I feel If they were open to changing the race weekend format it wouldn't be so bad.
Quali is great. Race is boring. It's the only race on calendar I will look at rating out of 10 before deciding to watch.
When I knew about the rain it was a definite watch.
Would be interesting to go back through forum reviews and see which tracks fair worse over the years.
1,3,1,4
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Those are the highest votes (didn't bother doing a mean/median) for the last 4 years of the GP as rated by our forum.
That's bad!
Valencia (all bar one year), and probably Abu Dhabi and Barcelona most years. There was one year where there were more overtakes at Monaco than there were at Valencia (Edit: 2009 at Valencia there wasn't a single overtake, whereas there were 9 at Monaco. Indeed Monaco 2009 had more overtakes than Spain (3), Hungary (7), Valencia (0), Singapore (4) and Abu Dhabi (8) that year).
Tracks where in theory it is better for overtaking yet you get none are far worse than Monaco, where you know you're unlikely to get any overtaking but at least the drivers have a challenge and qualifying is a spectacle.
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That really would be saying "**** this track"Thinking back, maybe Hamilton should have just cut the corner at turn 1 or cut the chicane to get past Alonso. Probably would have lost less time, even with the 10 second penalty, and would have gained a place.
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Average audience per race last year was over 70 million worldwide. A few people whinging online that they don't like Monaco are vastly outnumbered by the silent majority.
Amusing thing about Ocon, is that if he hadn't tried to fight Lewis so much and end up pulling dangerous moves/getting a penalty, he likely would have finished in the points/p8 anyway, and Alpine would have netted more points for the constructors.
Would he have been black flagged? What would have happened, because that's blatantly cheatingThinking back, maybe Hamilton should have just cut the corner at turn 1 or cut the chicane to get past Alonso. Probably would have lost less time, even with the 10 second penalty, and would have gained a place.
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