Moon landing coincidence?

Because someone denying observable and proveable facts such as the earth orbiting the sun deserves to be ridiculed.
He was giving his opinion. It's nothing to do with observable facts because none of us know specifically why the date was picked.

I posted on the thread because people were making assumptions with no evidence. You assume there is no connection.

If you’re going to spout these things on the internet, be prepared to receive pushback - this isn’t an echo chamber.

You seem to be denying common sense and claiming to be confused about the points I'm making, yet you then reply back.

I think you're trolling me. Because if you can't understand that scientists can still believe in astrology and/or religion then we're never going to reach an understanding on the subject, especially when it's opinions not facts that are being posted.

If you can give me the name of the guy who had the deciding choice on picking the date, and there is no evidence that he didn't have an interest in astrology, then I'll change my mind and agree it's a coincidence.
 
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If you can give me the name of the guy who had the deciding choice on picking the date, and there is no evidence that he didn't have an interest in astrology, then I'll change my mind and agree it's a coincidence.

Tell you what Bowdon, I'll give you two people. One guy credited as being a big reason why they got there before the end of the decade was George Mueller - head of the Office of Manned Spaceflight, it was his decision to move to all-up testing (i.e test fly the rocket as a unit rather than testing individual stages). By doing that, a manned launch to the Moon in 1969 becomes feasible.

The other one I want to mention is George M. Low, because it was essentially his idea to send Apollo 8 around the Moon for Christmas '68. 8 was originally going to do an elliptical orbit of Earth and test the LEM, but the LEM was behind schedule and wouldn't be ready to fly until '69. Low proposed sending 8 out to the Moon to test the S-IVB doing the trans-lunar burn, test the CSM doing long duration spaceflight, the CSM engine burning into and out of lunar orbit, and high speed reentry. Without that mission meeting all those objectives, there's no way the program is ready to land by Apollo 11 and July 1969.

If you can find anything vaguely reliable that says either of those men was big into astrology then cool. I'll heartily admit that your position has merit.
 
Part of the reason it was 69 was because they wanted it done in that decade and it was a race to get the steampunk tincan on the rock.

That, at least, is a coincidence. If they were on track in 68 they would have done it then.
 
Part of the reason it was 69 was because they wanted it done in that decade and it was a race to get the steampunk tincan on the rock.

That, at least, is a coincidence. If they were on track in 68 they would have done it then.

Quite. And they could have been, if the CSM hadn't been such a bear to put together and the LEM hadn't been even worse and the Apollo 1 fire hadn't happened or had happened but earlier and the Gemini EVA missions had been more successful early on and Gemini 8 had successfully completed that mission and...
 
Quite. And they could have been, if the CSM hadn't been such a bear to put together and the LEM hadn't been even worse and the Apollo 1 fire hadn't happened or had happened but earlier and the Gemini EVA missions had been more successful early on and Gemini 8 had successfully completed that mission and...

Also, 69 is an awesome number for all involved.
 
I mean the month thing is a 1 in 12 chance and the year thing is a 1 in 100 chance. Someone better at maths/probabilities can likely tell you the odds of both occurring.

However, ultimately it is hardly that improbable.
 
He was giving his opinion. It's nothing to do with observable facts because none of us know specifically why the date was picked.

I posted on the thread because people were making assumptions with no evidence. You assume there is no connection.



You seem to be denying common sense and claiming to be confused about the points I'm making, yet you then reply back.

I think you're trolling me. Because if you can't understand that scientists can still believe in astrology and/or religion then we're never going to reach an understanding on the subject, especially when it's opinions not facts that are being posted.

If you can give me the name of the guy who had the deciding choice on picking the date, and there is no evidence that he didn't have an interest in astrology, then I'll change my mind and agree it's a coincidence.
People can collect random factoids about stuff without necessarily having an interest in the topic. It is possible that someone happened to know a few factoids about astrology and saw the opportunity to line up the month.
 
Tell you what Bowdon, I'll give you two people. One guy credited as being a big reason why they got there before the end of the decade was George Mueller - head of the Office of Manned Spaceflight, it was his decision to move to all-up testing (i.e test fly the rocket as a unit rather than testing individual stages). By doing that, a manned launch to the Moon in 1969 becomes feasible.

The other one I want to mention is George M. Low, because it was essentially his idea to send Apollo 8 around the Moon for Christmas '68. 8 was originally going to do an elliptical orbit of Earth and test the LEM, but the LEM was behind schedule and wouldn't be ready to fly until '69. Low proposed sending 8 out to the Moon to test the S-IVB doing the trans-lunar burn, test the CSM doing long duration spaceflight, the CSM engine burning into and out of lunar orbit, and high speed reentry. Without that mission meeting all those objectives, there's no way the program is ready to land by Apollo 11 and July 1969.

If you can find anything vaguely reliable that says either of those men was big into astrology then cool. I'll heartily admit that your position has merit.
The conversation is academic to me, though I still don't know why people were attacking OP, as though he pointed out the dates he went on to call it a coincidence, which is what people objecting to him are saying.

None of us know 100% the truth. That was my point. I wasn't saying it definitely was astrology based, which I think some thought that was what I was saying. I think that was my fault for posting badly worded replies yesterday.

Based on probability, and until evidence to the contrary, I think it's more likely astrologists have tried to imprint their theology onto the moon landings rather than astrology being the motivator.

I will conceed that based on the evidence available, and probability, it is more likely a coincidence (or mischievous astrologists trying to create a coincidence to attract attention to astrology) than anyone following astrological charts and purposely picking a date that lines up.
 
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