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Skeeter should be in a F1 team, he knows everything, about everything
All the cars sound the same as the Red Bull, even though the video shows they don't
Thats very interesting and I do love a conspiracy theory.
What is most interesting is the fact that Webber's car and Vettel's car seem to behave differently.
Perhaps Vettel has a more advanced version of the car, while Webber is driving the tried & tested version, which is also slower. This wouldn't make sense though, because if Webber is driving an older/tried and tested car, why is it that his car consistently breaks down or runs into problems? An older, tried and tested model is usually more reliable. Right?
Could Webber's problem be heat related: because Vettel drives from the front, he get clean air. Webber always drives in dirty (warmer) air, hence his car is more likely to break. Perhaps the RBR car is temperature sensitive - more so than any other on the grid?
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Thanks for that Mr Men. The way it has been described in the rules tells me there is no way of reducing the power from the engine in any way as red bull seem to be doing, but the 'preventing the driven wheels from spinning under power' seems a little bit ambiguous and open to interpretation. Is there anything stopping them from adding as much power as possible through the kers by modulating the kers power, while the driver holds the throttle near to the limit of grip, in order to get very close to wheelspin but not actually get wheelspin? Could sufficiently clever lawyers find an interpretation that allow a system like that, no matter how efficient it is at getting to the limit of wheelspin?
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Jules Bianchi will remain with the Marussia Formula 1 team for 2014 good news I think, now Marussia are going to be running Ferrari engines I wonder if eventually we could see it become the Ferrari proving grounds.
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Why would it be such a shock that a driver who is leaving at the end of the season doesnt have the same kit on it as the other driver who is staying at the end of the season?
Could also (difference between the RBs) be something to do with the size difference between the drivers... AN is known to like to cram everything in and perhaps Marks greater height and weight means things are crammed in even more causing overheating, where as with Seb they have a bit more options with moving stuff around?
It's likely a combination of lots of little things though... or Red Bull are cheats!!
It's likely a combination of lots of little things though... or Red Bull are cheats!!
So according to that, tyres are illegal given that they constitute a device that alerts the driver of the onset of wheelspin by giving a visual indicator in the form of smoke
LOL no, as smoke would indicate the wheels are already spinning, not warning that they are about to spin
Reports surfacing that Rubens Barrichello will make an F1 comeback with Sauber, starting in Brazil this year.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130930/f1/130939989
Personally I can't see this working, and he lowered his stock by spending most of 2012 wasting a good ride in Indycar.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130930/f1/130939989
Personally I can't see this working, and he lowered his stock by spending most of 2012 wasting a good ride in Indycar.
Well, it would make sense if they're confident that they will be taking on Sirotkin, as pairing him with Gutiérrez could lead to some expensive bills for carbon fibre. But I would have thought Massa would be their first choice, given that he has more recent experience. Of course, he could also be demanding a relatively large salary, which Sauber clearly can't afford...
As much as Rubens is portrayed as a nice guy, there's only bad things that stick in my mind about him...
1) Being a perennial whipping boy
2) Whining when he was getting beaten by Button at Brawn
3) His pathetic "appeal" on the BBC when his seat at Williams was up for grabs
I'd much rather see pretty much anyone else take a race seat.
1) Being a perennial whipping boy
2) Whining when he was getting beaten by Button at Brawn
3) His pathetic "appeal" on the BBC when his seat at Williams was up for grabs
I'd much rather see pretty much anyone else take a race seat.
Massa (Santander likes him) and Barrichello would both come with personal sponsorship in this case.
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Under the braking phase this isn't relevant. Modulating the input torque to the motor would be more related to the ABS rule. But then the system doesn't affect the brakes.
When he's powering out of the corner is a interesting one. The article suggests output torque of the electric motor is modulated which means he needs to be using KERS every time he comes out of a corner. If on the other hand, he was charging the battery during acceleration (again by varying the input torque like above), he would be wasting fuel and engine power but then is questionable under the rules. The charging phase under acceleration may not be preventing spinning in RB's eyes, just using the available output torque with limiting power to the ground as bi-product. A alternator on a engine would do the same thing. It's how Red Bull spins it to the scrutinisers that's the real question.
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Are RBR using the standard ECU? Yes
Are the engine maps from that ECU readily available to the FIA? Yes
Have the passed scrutineering? Yes
Have any other teams protested? No
Have the FIA investigated allegations of cheating? No
Has anyone directly or indirectly in competition with RBR, i.e. anyone who would gain from RBR getting into trouble for cheating, made any claims of cheating or any protests of any results? No
Does 'teh interwebs' think RBR are cheating? Yes
Well clearly it must be true then!!
It boggles me every time something like this comes up that people seem to think 10 teams in furious competition with each other, all constructed of hundreds of the most skilled people in their field, all overseen by the global authority in Motorsport, are completely oblivious to something that some random fan spots with his camera phone
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Are the engine maps from that ECU readily available to the FIA? Yes
Have the passed scrutineering? Yes
Have any other teams protested? No
Have the FIA investigated allegations of cheating? No
Has anyone directly or indirectly in competition with RBR, i.e. anyone who would gain from RBR getting into trouble for cheating, made any claims of cheating or any protests of any results? No
Does 'teh interwebs' think RBR are cheating? Yes
Well clearly it must be true then!!
It boggles me every time something like this comes up that people seem to think 10 teams in furious competition with each other, all constructed of hundreds of the most skilled people in their field, all overseen by the global authority in Motorsport, are completely oblivious to something that some random fan spots with his camera phone
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