Motorsport Off Topic Thread

Glaucus said:
The trouble is, it doesn't matter what weight they set, teams will still want small light drivers.

An increase just means they can add more ballast where they want to.
I don't see a way of solving this. As a car and driver is so light, even a few kilos heavier want change anything. I think its just one of those things. Just like jockeys who get an advantage when small and light. Unless you increase the weight to say about 2000kilos then 5kilos of body weight isn't such a big percentage.
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Oh yea definitely, I don't think there is anything wrong with it being a preference for teams but I think there needs to be a balance.
The worry is that talented drivers are replaced with not as good drivers because they are lighter if it gives too much of an advantage.
Can't imagine it's easy because people are different sizes and shapes but personally I wouldn't like to see it go to the extremes of horse racing as then we would no longer have the best drivers in the world... just the best small drivers :p
 
Skeeter said:
Yeah. There's no question that they are doing something funky.

But somehow concluding that means they are running an illegal car and bribing the FIA to get away with it is a large and illogical leap.

Its a shame that F1 has got to the stage where innovation and genius is met with such negativity, rather than celebrated and promoted. That said, I'm pretty sure it would be getting a different opinion if it was anyone other than RBR doing it.
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I agree with you on that, obviously where something different or new is used questions have to be raised over the legality of it. Especially in situations like this, where traction control is banned but there is a possibility RBR are using a system that works like TC but isn't TC. That is not to say they are breaking the rules though but as with many things F1 they will be bending them or using a loophole. I think once the other teams figure it out either they will copy it or complain to the FIA who will clarify the rules thus then making the system illegal.
 
I guess Dani Pedrosa has a shot in F1 :rolleyes:. 50kg +around 150kg bike against some that weight 70kg. that 20kg difference is like 10% boost in power/weight ratio which is huge, esp when 0.1 sec/lap can make a big difference

on a serious note. both F1 and Moto GP should up the min weight to population average. which is a lot more than 65kg. as for ballast, the FIA can decide that it can only go under the driver seat than that should level the playing field
 
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lunarwolf said:
I guess Dani Pedrosa has a shot in F1 :rolleyes:. 50kg +around 150kg bike against some that weight 70kg. that 20kg difference is like 10% boost in power/weight ratio which is huge, esp when 0.1 sec/lap can make a big difference
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But he struggles on the brakes as a result of his lack of weight too. Still, his small size would outweigh that I'd imagine.
 
Skeeter said:
Not sure how you would get that through parc ferme. Would be interesting to have code capable of changing itself. But the FIA have access to the whole ECU so would presumably be able to see the code that changes the code anyway?
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Knowing one of senior FIA technical guys and having seen what they go through in parc ferme I'd be extremely surprised if they were doing something iffy.
 
I must admit I've never been a fan of F1 but supercar racing to me seems really appealing. Is anything of that nature broadcast on a regular basis?
 
Tom_D said:
I must admit I've never been a fan of F1 but supercar racing to me seems really appealing. Is anything of that nature broadcast on a regular basis?
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World Endurance Championship (including Le Mans) is on Eurosport, a lot of it live. The ALMS is on Motors I think, but it merges into the Grand Am series next year to create the United Sports Car series and I don't know who will broadcast it. USC will have Sebring 12h and Daytona 24h.
FIA GT series is again on either Eurosport or Motors, can't remember. Its run to GT3 specifications which is massively popular. There is also the Blancpain series and other GT3 series including the British GT championship which is on terrestrial TV somewhere.
For one make the Lamborghini championship is on Motors, as is the Ferrari challenge.
And for something a bit different the Australian V8 supercars series is shown extensively on Motors and is always brilliant.
 
If you're bored of BTCC but want to see production-based cars, then the Continental Tire series (undercard to Grand-Am/USCC) and Pirelli World Challenge might be of interest.
 
One does not simply get bored of BTCC :p WTCC is good when I've seen it, but don't follow it much.
 
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