Motorsport Off Topic Thread

Don't know if it's been posted but has anyone seen the thing Honda did with lights and speakers around Suzuka recreating a lap from Senna's McLaren in 1989? It's amazing.
 
You been at the iillegal substances again arknor?

Montoya got very close to the 2003 drivers title. He lost it on FIA interference and bad luck and could outdrive schumacher on his day. Loads of pole positions during the single car qualifying period and a handful of race wins against the dominant Ferrari's of the period when the BMW didn't grenade at 20000rpm. A champcar title and Indy 500 winner in his rookie year in a unfamiliar car.

Montoya got a drive on talent. Same can't be said about Loldonardo.

Berger got a program as well, was he undeserving?

I wouldnt disagree with you on any of that - but I still wouldnt classify Montoya as a Legend either.

Maybe in america, but not in the european scene

"Legend" is a very over-used description

A legend is not the one who starts the most races or has the most race wins, it's much more than just stat's.

For a sporting legend, while its based on stats yes I would agree its more than that but it should still be based on what happeend on the field of play / track etc.

What he does outside his career may well make him a good guy etc, but has nothing to do with legendary status in the slightest.
 
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I'd call Montoya a legend, not so much for his achievements, but for the way he captivated a lot of viewers. That move on Schumacher which heralded his arrival in 2001 is enough for that status itself. :p
 
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Autosport online subscription, is it worth it? Thinking of doing it for the in season stuff, as I always seem to go over the 30 free views much quicker. Does it provide anything over the free stories worth reading? Can I change my front page layout so I don't see the v8 supercars results every bloody time?
 
Autosport online subscription, is it worth it? Thinking of doing it for the in season stuff, as I always seem to go over the 30 free views much quicker. Does it provide anything over the free stories worth reading? Can I change my front page layout so I don't see the v8 supercars results every bloody time?

I gave it up a few years ago, off-season, but as soon as the next season approached I re-subbed. It's a pretty good site for news, some very decent writers on it - and it covers MotoGP quite well as an added bonus. They have Gary Anderson this year also, which really adds to it, imo.

I don't think you can change the page layout, never tried though, but you can just view the section you're interested in, so its not really a problem.

The forum's not bad, can be a bit puerile at times, but generally they're a well-informed and reasonable bunch (remind you of anywhere?) :D The mods (particularly Buttoneer) do a good job trying to keep it civil.

I think its worth it, but you can probably do reasonably well off half-a-dozen free sites if you're not sure.
 
I gave it up a few years ago, off-season, but as soon as the next season approached I re-subbed. It's a pretty good site for news, some very decent writers on it - and it covers MotoGP quite well as an added bonus. They have Gary Anderson this year also, which really adds to it, imo.

I don't think you can change the page layout, never tried though, but you can just view the section you're interested in, so its not really a problem.

The forum's not bad, can be a bit puerile at times, but generally they're a well-informed and reasonable bunch (remind you of anywhere?) :D The mods (particularly Buttoneer) do a good job trying to keep it civil.

I think its worth it, but you can probably do reasonably well off half-a-dozen free sites if you're not sure.

Thanks, i'll give it a go for a month and see how I get on with it.
 
The classic races on SSF1 are an eye opener. 2003 Brazilian GP is on with Alonsos crash that red flagged it. He managed to get out of the car, limp to the wall, sit down and spend a couple of uncomfortable minutes shooing away marshals before anyone vaguely medical looking arrived.

Only 10 years ago and really poor.
 
Brilliant. So after getting only the 3rd ever purpose built race track in the UK approved, now the motor sport industry is trying to kill itself!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26712038

I get that Silverstone might be a bit annoyed they had to find all the funding privately to get their improvements built, but surely they need to look beyond the petty "its not fair" argument and consider the bigger picture.

The last thing UK motor sport needs is squabbling in itself!

Pathetic.
 
Why do they want to build a circuit in the middle of nowhere with no decent transport links? Silverstone, Donnington and Brand Hatch, all have decent links to the rest of the world and country.
 
Brilliant. So after getting only the 3rd ever purpose built race track in the UK approved, now the motor sport industry is trying to kill itself!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26712038

I get that Silverstone might be a bit annoyed they had to find all the funding privately to get their improvements built, but surely they need to look beyond the petty "its not fair" argument and consider the bigger picture.

The last thing UK motor sport needs is squabbling in itself!

Pathetic.

Well surely they are protecting their own interests as well - while the Circuit of Wales cant host F1, Im sure it can host everything else Silverstone hosts?

While the current circuit has contracts that will be enforced for a few years, in the long term this could be a competitor.

Like any other business they are trying to be the best choice available for UK races. (even considering the distances seperating them, they are still direct competitors ....or would be)
 
I understand that. But the UK has only got 1 top class circuit. We have space for more.

I think this is driven by the MotoGP. CoW has openly said its going after that contract, and the MotoGP is what spurred the changes at Silverstone.

But it still annoys me that CoW got past all the usual barriers (moaning neighbors, no funding, not being "green", etc), only for the industry itself to try and stop it.

Were meant to be the home of motor sport, for crying out loud.
 
I understand that. But the UK has only got 1 top class circuit. We have space for more.

I think this is driven by the MotoGP. CoW has openly said its going after that contract, and the MotoGP is what spurred the changes at Silverstone.

But it still annoys me that CoW got past all the usual barriers (moaning neighbors, no funding, not being "green", etc), only for the industry itself to try and stop it.

Were meant to be the home of motor sport, for crying out loud.

We may have space for more, but are there events to sustain multiple. I suspect not (unfortunately)

The other thing to potentially consider is that if there arent enough events to sustain both, there is potential for CofW to steal (lets say) Moto GP and for over the years both circuits fail

While we migth well be the home of the industry (self proclaimed or actual) and include the bases of 1/2 the F1 teams on the grid within our boarders - with not enough events to go round it makes no difference.

This probably has a lot to do with sponsorship and the heady days of the late 90's early naughties have long gone. Without sponsors , events are harder to put on
 
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