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Some horrible crashes there, is it me or does the standard of marshalling not seem very good? The safety car seemed very slow to deploy, marshalling looked chaotic and the cars coming up eau rouge didnt seem to slow down very much. All of those accidents looked serious enough for a red flag, endurance race or not...?

Everything just seemed so utterly dumb. There must have been yellow flags at the bottom of Eau Rouge, yet with a car (and in one case a driver) in the middle of the track, they were still heading up there at close to flat-out. How he wasn't killed I've no idea. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was dazed, as otherwise that's about the stupidest decision I have ever seen.

With the horrible Stavelot accident there was no movement from the marshalls at all. There was a large fire and two clearly badly damaged cars, yet the two marshals (there must have been more in the immediate area, surely?!) I saw were just sauntering up to and over the barriers, as if they were spectators. I can appreciate they would have been told not to approach the car in the middle of the track, but the other was well off the track.
 
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Driver standards dont seem that high in this GT series, at least lower down the order. Lots of rich folk paying to drive who don't seem quite on the ball in this class of car...the video of vadim kogay at monza earlier this year was warning enough id have thought...
 
It shouldn't be down to pro/amateur status or how experienced you are, it's all common sense.

Even after the big accidents and people airlifted to hospital there have been cars chopping across in front of each other on the run down to Blanchimont and such. I hate the word and never use it, but I can't think of another - this is utterly retarded and it makes me rage.

The race controller should have been banging their heads together during the red flag period.
 
News:

Mahy was put into a medically induced coma, but has now regained consciousness and can move all of his limbs and is responding to stimulation. He will stay in hospital and is expected to have neck surgery over the next few days.

That kind of goes with the HANS failure that was rumoured.
 
Any neck injury is serious, but if he did break the HANS system then it's amazing he's still got movement.

We still don't know what happened. All I've seen is 2 cars, one missing one side and the other on fire. Would be good to see what actually happened. Then again, the camera crews were pretty bad, missed Mullins' accident totally.
 
If anyone is interested, Sky on demand has a 10 minute show chatting to Ted Kravitz about how he got in to doing what he does. It's in the sport > F1 section.

Behind the Mic: Ted Kravitz
 
I didn't realise it was that Vadim Kogay of Monza infamy. That guy should be stripped of his racing license.

By Monza infamy I presume it's just the video of him constantly going off the track. Watching a vid the commentary is brilliant, following two other cars the camera pans across dust being kicked up off track, they joke it's him again and burst out laughing when his green ferrari emerges from the dust. Was that his first race, Monza, how can anyone seriously let him race again. Going off under a yellow in the actual corner the other guy has gone off in... retard.

Or is there another video of him doing even worse?

If you've got enough money, professionalism or experience don't matter, they'll let you go out there and potentially kill another driver with your ineptitude.
 
If he's suffered a HANS failure and requires neck surgery, but can move all of his limbs he is one heck of a lucky bloke.

Good to hear that the driver seems to be responding well to treatment.

Is this the first possible failure of a HANS device in motorsport? I can't think of any crashes or incidents where there was even speculation of a HANS device failing.

Regards,

Blackvault
 
We've been asking for years. It'll never happen. They don't even use it for testing nay more :(

There's no chance of it now, with Honda coming on board. Hopefully it'll go back to something white and red, reminiscent of the late 80s/early 90s.
 
I understand why they keep the colours seperate, the GT arm is very much isolated from the F1 arm, and F1 obviously follows the sponsor requirements more. But dam that orange/black/white combo looks awesome.

Honda will almost certainly mean white will appear on the cars, but other than that, I don't know what else they might add. Depends on what sponsors they sign I suppose?
 
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115185

Poor old Caterham!

The Caterham Formula 1 team's new owners are facing legal action from around 40 of its former staff, after they were axed in the wake of its recent takeover.

Following Tony Fernandes' decision to sell the outfit to a group of Middle Eastern and Swiss investors, Caterham's new owners have been looking at saving costs to make the team more financially viable.

Part of that effort has included a reduction in staff numbers, with more than 40 members being dismissed ahead of the German Grand Prix.

These included several senior figures, among them team manager Graham Watson, head of track operations Gerry Hughes and deputy technical director Jody Eggington.

But the staff believe the way in which they were dropped was against UK employment law - and as well as taking legal action over the matter they want the FIA to look into the team's conduct.
 
Some deeply odd results in there (particularly Senna down in 19th! :eek:), but I do understand why they're coming out like that. The model being used does have several caveats after all.

Nico Rosberg in 7th?
I wouldnt put him in the top 50.
Vettel, Clark, fangio, MSc, Alonso, Lauda, all drivers expected to be in the top 10.

Of the current (still active) drivers, the following is the order:
Highest rank at the top:
Alonso
Rosberg
Vettel
Hamilton
Kimi
Button.

These are based on statistics.
Rpsberg has to be some sort of error.
Vettel wins 4 titles in a row and Rosberg is ahead of him?
 
It shows you can prove anything with stats.

But get it out of your head that Rosberg isn't an excellent driver - he's not far off one of the out-right fastest the sport has seen, and while he doesn't have the cutting edge of others, he's a driver very capable of winning a title on merit alone, and this season might prove that yet.

He is not and will never be among the true titans of F1 (in my opinion Fangio, Clark, Senna, Schumacher and Alonso) but he's more capable than other former champions, probably including his dad.
 
If anyone is interested, Sky on demand has a 10 minute show chatting to Ted Kravitz about how he got in to doing what he does. It's in the sport > F1 section.

Behind the Mic: Ted Kravitz

Looks like you need full Sky Sports for this. I can't view it with just the F1 channel. :(
 
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