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While Sauber have been dragged through the mud on this, Van der Garde has been very professional about it. He didn't squabble and shout and abuse the team, he did things properly, and then squeezed the team but resisted pushing them over the edge out of spite. And now he's talking a lot of sense about the situation.

Quite a thing considering he isn't the qualified international business lawyer in this case...
 
If what Ted said in the notebook is to be believed, VDG's multi-millionaire Father in law is after a stake in Sauber. It would make sense as I highly doubt they have 15m laying around to hand out, so he could get a portion of the team as part of the settlement effectively for free.
 
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Well, it isn't really getting something for free. They paid a large sum of money for something they didn't receive. What's more accurate is that they may get substantially more value in return by taking part ownership.
 
MissChief said:
It's the only track that doesn't pay a hosting fee (which winds Bernie up no end I'm sure) so Bernie can't even play the 'pay up or we'll go elsewhere' card. The teams would go mental as it's THE place to wine and dine Sponsors.
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Im sure Bernie does just as much winning (or should that be whining) and diing in Monaco as the team does.

They may not pay a hosting fee, but I bet the amount of deals that are signed there one way or another generates the same amount of cash
 
I was under the impression that whilst Monaco was still financially important from a sponsor perspective, it is Singapore where the real financial benefit lies these days. A bigger native, local audience for most of the sponsors, and bigger markets too. Perhaps they're just different markets. From a fan's perspective, as much as Singapore is criticised I'd choose it in a heartbeat over going to Monaco again. I suppose everyone should go there once but in terms of trackside fan experience it is poor.
 
The_Abyss said:
From a fan's perspective, as much as Singapore is criticised I'd choose it in a heartbeat over going to Monaco again. I suppose everyone should go there once but in terms of trackside fan experience it is poor.
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I love both the tracks. While the racing itself is usually boring at both, the tracks themselves are easily the most challenging.

Monaco isn't quite the track it was a decade back with the apex guardrails removed, but it's the pinnacle in challenges for an F1 driver, and that is enough for me to eagerly anticipate the weekend each year.
 
Bit of a random one, has anyone got the rules + regs of the hybrid limits in LMP1 for this year, just spotted Audi are moving up a step to 4MJ, and just wondering if they move up what will go down (presume fuel allowance)?
 
Sutil is now suing Sauber as he had the same deal and GvG did. He is wanting compensation as opposed to a drive.

Surely Kaltenborn (the lawyer) head must roll?
 
Good for him, blandest personality to ever embrace an f1 car but he deserves what gvd got out of them financially too.
 
As much as we love to slate the FIA, they are pretty good at putting their regulations out there.

They don't do the same with technical directives and things though, but they are usually because they screwed up the rules so I can see why :p.
 
I do like Will Buxton.

He makes a good point. Red Bull aren't Ferrari, and acting like they are just makes them look like fools. And when people like McLaren are still up beat in the face of frankly embarrassing levels of patheticness, throwing a giant public wobbly because you came 6th is hillariously arrogant.

I don't want them to quit though, they are a competitive team with good funding. However Horner et al getting knocked down a few pegs by soon realising nobody cares will be a good thing.
 
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