Motorsport Off Topic Thread

arknor · 24 Oct 2012 at 16:43

brit teams have been filing there accounts with london company house for the 2011 season
Red Bull Racing - 207 million euros
Mercedes - 145 million euros
Lotus - 155 million euros.
Williams - 111 million euros.

McLaren figures are yet to come out.

source amus

Duke · 24 Oct 2012 at 17:07

tummelv said:
So am I the only one loving the Chrome Mclaren run with right now? Hands down best livery on the current cars.

Yeah I do love the current Mclaren livery - by far the best on the grid.

Weebull · 24 Oct 2012 at 18:50

tummelv said:
So am I the only one loving the Chrome Mclaren run with right now? Hands down best livery on the current cars.

I was thinking this. Part of me would love to see the Marlboro livery, as it was iconic, but then I'd also miss the chrome look.

If anything, losing Vodaphone could make the current livery even better.

Skeeter · 24 Oct 2012 at 20:15

Weebull said:
If anything, losing Vodaphone could make the current livery even better.

2006 style?

MagicBoy · 24 Oct 2012 at 20:30

PinkFloyd said:
That Malboro Livery looks so good!

Might look good, but mobile fag packets are illegal...

arknor · 24 Oct 2012 at 20:56

MagicBoy said:
Might look good, but mobile fag packets are illegal...

are they illegal everywhere or only in europe ?

Westyfield2 · 24 Oct 2012 at 21:10

Duke said:
How nice do these look

http://dragonsf1.blog.com/2011/07/16/modern-car-old-graphics/

Someone NEEDS to do that for real!

MagicBoy · 24 Oct 2012 at 21:12

arknor said:
are they illegal everywhere or only in europe ?

EU rules are irrelevant in this case. The FIA banned it.

http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/1944644279__21_11_2001_FIA_WHO.pdf

MagicBoy · 24 Oct 2012 at 21:20

Westyfield2 said:
Someone NEEDS to do that for real!

Camel, West, Marlboro, Mild Seven. Spot a problem theme there?

El_Watcher · 24 Oct 2012 at 21:21

MagicBoy said:
Might look good, but mobile fag packets are illegal...

And. It doesn't have to actually say Marlboro on it. As long as it is red and white stripes it could still look the same, as Loltus did with the black JPS car.

MagicBoy · 24 Oct 2012 at 21:23

/Scurries off to check for JPS logos on the 2012 fake Lotus.

Weebull · 25 Oct 2012 at 17:48

El_Watcher said:
And. It doesn't have to actually say Marlboro on it. As long as it is red and white stripes it could still look the same, as Loltus did with the black JPS car.

Wasn't there an issue with Ferrari and their not-so-subtle Marlboro logo a while back though?

MagicBoy · 25 Oct 2012 at 18:14

Ferrari were using a barcode motif back in 2010, which had nothing whatsoever to do Marlboro. That's why it also featured on the Marlboro sponsored Ducati MotoGP bikes...

It disappeared when it was suggested it might be subliminal advertising.

Skeeter · 25 Oct 2012 at 18:27

The difference was that Marlboro actually sponsor Ferrari, while the 'subliminal advertising' claims against Lotus Renault for running JPS colours were rubbish because JPS don't sponsor them.

MagicBoy · 25 Oct 2012 at 18:33

I never stated otherwise. Marlboro still had team naming rights, but couldn't show a logo. I only think it stopped this year.

mctiny · 25 Oct 2012 at 18:43

Skeeter said:
The difference was that Marlboro actually sponsor Ferrari, while the 'subliminal advertising' claims against Lotus Renault for running JPS colours were rubbish because JPS don't sponsor them.

Add to the small detail that until recently they were always called Malboro ferrari in some way and got away with it...

Didn't they change the tobacco advertising rules because of Ferrari? now meaning that you cannot have anything that resembles a tobacco company displayed on anywhere within the team or cars...

King Damager · 25 Oct 2012 at 19:05

I'm firmly in the opinion the lotus Renault black gold livery is the best around.

kd

Skeeter · 25 Oct 2012 at 19:24

MagicBoy said:
I never stated otherwise. Marlboro still had team naming rights, but couldn't show a logo. I only think it stopped this year.

Wasn't a dig, sorry. Just saying that the subliminal claims could be justified in the Marlboro case, but not for the JPS.

Ferrari no longer have Marlboro in the team name as of the start of this year. I dunno if that's because of a rule change or because Marlboro no longer sponsor them though?

mctiny · 25 Oct 2012 at 19:28

Skeeter said:
Wasn't a dig, sorry. Just saying that the subliminal claims could be justified in the Marlboro case, but not for the JPS.

Ferrari no longer have Marlboro in the team name as of the start of this year. I dunno if that's because of a rule change or because Marlboro no longer sponsor them though?

I'm under the impression that they still "ïnvest" into Ferrari...

arknor · 25 Oct 2012 at 20:08

what happens if "malboro" start making another product under the same brand using the same logo and same colours ? could they now sponsor ferrari ?