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cainer said:
If McLaren agree to pay him his contract they don't have to put him in the car, Danny can't demand that he drives it,
they just put him on gardening leave and keep paying him, same as Ferrari did to Kimi
and that would mean that if anyone wants to hire Danny they'd have to effectively buy his contract off of McLaren, or Danny would have to agree to leave at a reduced price, maybe for free
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Exactly.
The writing has been on the wall for Danny for a while now. In fairness to him though, the team should tell him this NOW and let him know if they have signed Piastri for next year.
Danny has always been a fighter on the track, if they tell him now, he could could think to himself XXXX you............................and just blast the rest of this season and maybe even get in front of Lando. It has happened in the past in F1 and could happen again.
 
Well, he's potentially 1/6 so far :)

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Norris and piastri would be an amazing line up.
As an alpine supporter in envious.


Ocon has had a few good results. But alonso is better. Still annoyed they signed Ocon for so long

Please alpine. Do not have riccardo back!
 
Danny has been found out, no question, if the replacement gets a few points they could easily cover any buyout clause.
 
MissChief said:
McLaren with one of the best lineups next season?
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Not sure about that. Piastri is a prodigious talent but he'll need time to find his feet in F1. Meanwhile you've got Mercedes with Hamilton/Russell (easily the best lineup), Red Bull have the talent of Verstappen, and Ferrari have Leclerc and Sainz (who beat Norris comfortably enough). I'd say that McLaren's lineup is comfortably weaker than all three of those, putting it solidly midfield. If Piastri does live up to the promise, though, it's going to grow into one of the best lineups over the next few years.
 
Mr Jack said:
Piastri is a prodigious talent but he'll need time to find his feet in F1.
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After all this it'd be hilarious to see him fail miserably. I know everyone is blaming Alpine for this but all I see is some young upstart that has been backed by a team, trained up, supported, finally offered him the full time gig only to to have him turn them down publicly and make them look stupid. I know nothing about the guy but at best he's got some bad advice, at worst he's a total primadonna with ideas above his station. You did this in any other workplace and your name would be mud and quite right too.

That's also ignoring the fact that Alpine look stronger than McLaren right now, so he's doing it all for the money too? :confused:
 
The pieces are falling into place with reports coming out that McLaren have told Ricciardo they are going to end his contract at the end of this season, while The Mirror is reporting four teams after him for next year - presumably Alpine, Haas, Williams, and? Who's the fourth?

Scam said:
After all this it'd be hilarious to see him fail miserably. I know everyone is blaming Alpine for this but all I see is some young upstart that has been backed by a team, trained up, supported, finally offered him the full time gig only to to have him turn them down publicly and make them look stupid. I know nothing about the guy but at best he's got some bad advice, at worst he's a total primadonna with ideas above his station. You did this in any other workplace and your name would be mud and quite right too.
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From reports, it seems that Alpine were lining him up for a second season on the sidelines until Fred bailed. He's every right to look for other options at that point - frankly, Alpine stuffed up not making sure they had a seat for him this season and absolutely no right to expect him to stick around twiddling his thumbs for another season wasting one of the most promising rookie talents in recent years. I suspect there was a certain amount of souring of relations over not getting him into a seat, and a certain amount of timing that he'd already agreed with McLaren when Alonso toddled off to Aston.
 
I half wonder if Alpine are sniffing around Gasly and AT are interested in Ricciardo, the Alpine seat aside AT would surely be a better option than Haas or Williams.

I'm not convinced Red Bull would try that hard to hold onto Gasly given he's basically got no future there beyond 2023.

In other news Haas are reported to have pulled contract talks with Schumacher now that the Aston Seat is no longer an option, makes sense I guess to give them longer to evaluate although there's rumours linking him with Williams for next season alongside Albon, personally I think that might be best for his development - did Russell no harm and Albon has looked very settled there this season.
 
Ah thats fair enough I suppose. Yeah if it was looking like Alonso was sticking around and he wasn't going to get a drive then he's entitled to look around. Still seems a bit brave/aggressive to air his dirty washing in public though.
 
Apparently Alpine's deal with Oscar was that if he wasn't driving for them next year he'd be sent over to Williams for a year with Alpine financially backing him,
so he knew he'd be driving in F1 next season, but he didn't want to go to Williams when there was a chance to join McLaren
worth a watch from Peter Windsor

 
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cainer said:
Apparently Alpine's deal with Oscar was that if he wasn't driving for them next year he'd be sent over to Williams for a year with Alpine financially backing him,
so he knew he'd be driving in F1 next season, but he didn't want to go to Williams when there was a chance to join McLaren
worth a watch from Peter Windsor
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Good video. Don't think I agree with him re: loyalty. Alpine had already badly let Piastri down by keeping on the benches this year and not making sure he was in their seat for next year was a double whammy. Alpine's failings here are as bad as anything Oscar did. Windsor says three years with Williams did Russell no harm - I can't agree. Look what Max and Leclerc managed in their first three years; I guarantee you that they learnt a lot more in those years than Russell did quite apart from the results they got and the money they earned. Oscar not wanting to go that route and instead take up a car at the front of the midfield is simply sensible. Had Alpine offered him the 2023 Alpine seat he deserves they'd have hung on to him.
 
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