Motorsport Off Topic Thread

chrismscotland said:
RB fans appear Trumpian? Your already in-built hatred of the man has him guilty before any of us know really anything about the allegations or actual evidence.

If he's done something wrong then he will need to answer for it
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The dude is a walking fever dream. Imagine living your life with such hatred for a group of individuals who don't have the slightest impact on your life - must be pretty miserable.

This is also coming from a group of supporters who frequently send death threats, which tells you enough about the individuals involved.
 
cuke2u said:
With any investigation into these kind of allegations then the FIA will be ensuring that it is transparent and independent of RB and as a external specialist barrister is being used then it seems, from the lack of comments, the FIA are satisfied.
We shall see...
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I don't think the FIA have any involvement here, what would be the basis for that? I expect FOM and Liberty would be having words if Horner was causing them reputational difficulties but I think there's a way to go before that is called for.

I think Horner will stand down before the season starts, or at least move to a non-public facing role until the investigation is completed.
 
koolpc said:
Has Horner been a naughty boy?

www.skysports.com

Christian Horner: Red Bull launch investigation after allegations of inappropriate behaviour against team principal

Red Bull confirmed on Monday that an investigation has been launched following allegations being made against team principal Christian Horner; the 50-year-old has been in charge at Red Bull since the team entered F1 in 2005; Red Bull are set to launch their 2024 car on February 15
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
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It doesn't look good for Horner if you believe the papers. Rumours of him being advised to step down from Redbull themselves. This is from the likes of The Express and The Sun though so a pallet of salt required.
The start of 2024 couldn't be better currently from my perspective. :)
I like the comments on the express article:

"
On the count of being an habitual cheat? Guilty my lord....

On the count of being an habitual whinger? Guilty my lord...

On the count of being an aggressive and controlling manager? Probably guilty my lord."
 
cuke2u said:
Only in your very biased opinions, how they link up is very bizarre and far from the reality. But hey, you've made unfounded allegations about RB again and again so only to be expected..:rolleyes:
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To be fair to Scam, it isn’t him making these unfounded allegations... just to add a bit of balance :)
 
sidimmu said:
Yeah if hes actually guilty and proven that its inappropriate/illegal yeah he deserves to lose his job.

Loving the amount of clear red bull haters in here though, wishing for a "slam dunk" of this individual, his job and impact on a team. Giving me a good laugh this morning.
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Not wishing for a slam dunk thank you, just a guess, I can’t say I couldn’t care less though, no smoke without fire.

I’m not sure I hate redbull, I find them frustrating because they are very good but aren’t and never were gracious.
 
Mr Jack said:
I don't think the FIA have any involvement here, what would be the basis for that? I expect FOM and Liberty would be having words if Horner was causing them reputational difficulties but I think there's a way to go before that is called for.

I think Horner will stand down before the season starts, or at least move to a non-public facing role until the investigation is completed.
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Tbf in any other organisation he would be on leave now.
 
Slam62 said:
Tbf in any other organisation he would be on leave now.
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As yet we don't know exactly what the evidence and details are so I don't think we could be sure of that and I don't think it's necessarily the case anyway. Horner's a very big character within RBR and hugely responsible for its incredible success. A figure like that has considerable sway and sticking power.
 
Mr Jack said:
I don't think the FIA have any involvement here, what would be the basis for that? I expect FOM and Liberty would be having words if Horner was causing them reputational difficulties but I think there's a way to go before that is called for.

I think Horner will stand down before the season starts, or at least move to a non-public facing role until the investigation is completed.
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Probably all of them but the FIA will be aware that these allegations could be damaging to F1.
 
cuke2u said:
What else would you call the Bild's take on it, fair and impartial?
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Usual tabloid garbage off the back of hearing about half a story is what i'd call it, not some bizarre 'MSM' esque Mercedes entwined conspiracy.

Honestly, this forum is absolutely off the charts sometimes with the whole Mercedes vs RBR thing but even i'm at a slight loss as to what on earth Mercedes have got to do with a tabloid talking up a story about Horner supposedly being a naughty boy at work.
 
Kenai said:
Usual tabloid garbage off the back of hearing about half a story is what i'd call it, not some bizarre 'MSM' esque Mercedes entwined conspiracy.
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Agreed, usual partisan bias really that is favouring their counties team, but no-one is suggesting Mercedes are involved..
 
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cuke2u said:
Is it impartial reporting though?
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I don't know; I don't read Bild. But I don't know of anything to suggest they have any bias against Red Bull. AFAICT their only real bias is towards the German drivers. Generally, Red Bull get a lot of favourable coverage in Germany - mostly because Marko is ever available to talk to the press. For example, every single race is followed immediately by an interview with Marko. Mercedes aren't anywhere near as keen to talk to the press or give such blunt interviews. Red Bull being Austrian probably helps too.
 
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Mr Jack said:
I don't know; I don't read Bild. But I don't know of anything to suggest they have any bias against Red Bull. AFAICT their only real bias is towards the German drivers. Generally, Red Bull get a lot of favourable coverage in Germany - mostly because Marko is ever available to talk to the press. For example, every single race is followed immediately by an interview with Marko. Mercedes aren't anywhere near as keen to talk to the press or give such blunt interviews. Red Bull being Austrian probably helps too.
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I don't read any red tops either because of their hypocrisy but if you stick a microphone in Marco's face for long enough it will probably result in a news story anyway.same with Bernie..
 
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