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So if Horner doesn't mange to hold on, who do you think would be his replacement?

He's both the TP & CEO, would they split the role like other teams have?

Maybe Jonathan Wheatley would become the TP and someone else as the CEO.
 
~Mike~ said:
So if Horner doesn't mange to hold on, who do you think would be his replacement?

He's both the TP & CEO, would they split the role like other teams have?

Maybe Jonathan Wheatley would become the TP and someone else as the CEO.
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Guenther Steiner seems the obvious candidate - has worked for red bull previously, has recent F1 experience and happy to fill the TV/Netflix void left by horner
 
jonneymendoza said:
Nowadays you won't get away with it especially if you're a high profile person.

If his guilty his done mate.
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All depends upon what he is guilty of, facts are sparse but we don't really know if the controlling behaviour would amount to anymore than a reprimand. On the other hand if, and a big if, it is anymore serious then he could be forced to step down.
We shall see but as he doesn't feel the need to back down, or step back from his public role, then he must be reckoning on his chances.

As far as comparing him to Weinstien is concerned, they are totally different circumstances and behaviour. I cannot see this being Horner at all, if it was of that nature he'd be gone immediately...
 
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Armageus said:
Guenther Steiner seems the obvious candidate - has worked for red bull previously, has recent F1 experience and happy to fill the TV/Netflix void left by horner
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Besides being entertaining, is Steiner actually any good though?
cuke2u said:
we don't really know if the controlling behaviour would amount to anymore than a reprimand.
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I think you’re clutching at straws here. If this was something worthy of just a reprimand then it wouldn’t be all over the press, and they certainly wouldn’t have setup an independent inquiry. You also wouldn’t have investors like Ford (what is their relationship to RB :confused: ) making public statements about it.
 
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Horners got no choice but to double down, I am sure he could technically win, but even if the case suddenly goes away there’s been a lot out in the open now.
He’s going to come out of this a lot weaker.

Personally I think the reporter must have the info he says he has, why make it up? So threatening legal action or anything else is a bit desperate, if indeed he has.

It’s one of those things where at the beginning you have a choice, apologise and act contrite or try and bully your way out of it. If you try the latter and the complainant just digs in you’re in a whole heap of trouble, if they are right.

Or genuinely the case is something of nothing.
 
All very good points, in addition why would the person reject the hush money if they were not 100% certain of the seriousness of the alleged offences.

Sounds like to me a women scorned and she will have her day in court.
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
in addition why would the person reject the hush money if they were not 100% certain of the seriousness of the alleged offences
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This is very true (although to be fair we don’t know for sure the hush money story is factual). If you were in it for a quick buck then you wouldn’t reject an offer. As a “normal” employee it’s massively sticking your neck out to reject an offer, double down and go the legal route which is going to be public whatever the outcome. I’m assuming the accuser hasn’t got Horner’s resources and money to just disappear off at the end of this and retire. They’ll be weighing up a future career etc as well.
 
Wasn't Pierre the rumoured candidate? But now he's supposedly off to Ferrari?

jonneymendoza said:
Nowadays you won't get away with it especially if you're a high profile person.
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Things are a hell of a lot better than they were, true, but it's not as clear cut as that. But Ford taking an interest certainly makes it more certain.

@cuke2u I'm in no way comparing Horner's alleged misdeeds to Weinstein's! Only the position of powerful men at the top of their company.
 
Mr Jack said:
Wasn't Pierre the rumoured candidate? But now he's supposedly off to Ferrari?



Things are a hell of a lot better than they were, true, but it's not as clear cut as that. But Ford taking an interest certainly makes it more certain.

@cuke2u I'm in no way comparing Horner's alleged misdeeds to Weinstein's! Only the position of powerful men at the top of their company.
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Yeah I got that, someone else though equated the misdemeanor with the words 'sex pest', very much an outrageous and unsubstantiated lie...
 
Armageus said:
I literally said that.

But having worked there before still doesn't make him a dead cert to fit in now
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Ok so why the snippy reply? I wasn’t even talking about RB, not sure why my opinion on them was relevant. You’re either joking about Steiner, or not. I don’t judge his performance based on his DTS caricature.
 
Red Bull don't seem to have any obvious internal candidates; if he hadn't just retired I'd have suggested Franz Tost as at least an interim replacement; most others (from the FIA or other Teams) would likely be on gardening leave for a long time before being allowed to take over.

The two that are most obviously available and still seem to be held in fairly high regard are Binotto and Otmar Szafnauer; you would think that Binotto's engineering background might be handy with the upcoming RB engine, etc.

For sheer laughs they should just hire Briatore
 
I imagine if they felt there was a high % chance of the allegations being proved true, that they wouldn't take the risk of giving him air time, going to the launch etc. After all, it's a company focussed entirely around the brand name.
 
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