It’s a few more than that mate
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The eight rules the FIA were forced to change in F1 because of Lewis Hamilton
Throughout Lewis Hamilton's career in Formula 1, the FIA have been forced to introduce seven rules that were directly caused by the Mercedes driver.
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I can’t see them ruling in favour of McLaren then as that has never been a valid reason before.
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Correct, which is why there should have been no penalty either way.
Soldato
It’s a few more than that mate
The 10 rule changes that the FIA have been forced to introduce in F1 because of Max Verstappen
Stolen from a post on Reddit, (as well as the Hamilton list) bit cheeky of them!
So the FIA rejected McLaren’s appeal.
Apparently teams can’t appeal against certain decisions and this one of those
- see screenshot of the appeal rules below .
For me - if Russell gets a penalty for the overtake on Bottas, then so should Max.
-> Russell made the apex first and pushed Bottas off track for the overtake . (Russell stayed within track limits) and got a 5sec penalty.
-> Max made the apex first, pushed Lando off track for the overtake, and went outside track limits, yet no penalty.
FIA appeal rules
Guess the reference of the rule McLaren were appealing - yep it’s one of the excluded ones
I guess McLaren Knew this, but we’re appealing anyway, out of principle
Apparently teams can’t appeal against certain decisions and this one of those
- see screenshot of the appeal rules below .For me - if Russell gets a penalty for the overtake on Bottas, then so should Max.
-> Russell made the apex first and pushed Bottas off track for the overtake . (Russell stayed within track limits) and got a 5sec penalty.
-> Max made the apex first, pushed Lando off track for the overtake, and went outside track limits, yet no penalty.
FIA appeal rules
Guess the reference of the rule McLaren were appealing - yep it’s one of the excluded ones
I guess McLaren Knew this, but we’re appealing anyway, out of principle
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So the FIA rejected McLaren’s appeal.
Apparently teams can’t appeal against certain decisions and this one of those
Ah, of course, in race penalty. Had they waited for the race to finish it could be appealed.
They lose their deposit for it, seems a bit silly, tbh.
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The only thing i'll say counter to this is that Russell was always the attacking car and Bottas was always the defending car in this incident, whatever else the stewards have closed to door on the Max/Lando incident now
(not a dig at anyone at all but this is the last i'm going to be discussing this topic
)Well its all bs really isn’t it. Max is heading for his third tainted WDC at this rate. One rule for them all, one rule for Max.
I bet the drivers briefings are interesting this weekend. I wonder if Alonso will make some nice demonstrations of this ruling if he has to defend in this race.
Edit: I like the fact Lewis came out pretty bluntly about it now and said how he did it to him all through 2021. This reel came up on my FB - I usually avoid them but just thought it’s hilarious that a caption of “2021 title fight was wild” showing a lot of the incidents ended up being 9 out of 10 clips showing Verstappen doing exactly what he did to Norris https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1VGSZUzD9FvWmn4U/?mibextid=UalRPS
I bet the drivers briefings are interesting this weekend. I wonder if Alonso will make some nice demonstrations of this ruling if he has to defend in this race.
Edit: I like the fact Lewis came out pretty bluntly about it now and said how he did it to him all through 2021. This reel came up on my FB - I usually avoid them but just thought it’s hilarious that a caption of “2021 title fight was wild” showing a lot of the incidents ended up being 9 out of 10 clips showing Verstappen doing exactly what he did to Norris
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1VGSZUzD9FvWmn4U/?mibextid=UalRPS
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How would it be tainted? He was within the rules - McLaren don't need help losing this title race.Well its all bs really isn’t it. Max is heading for his third tainted WDC at this rate. One rule for them all, one rule for Max.
I bet the drivers briefings are interesting this weekend. I wonder if Alonso will make some nice demonstrations of this ruling if he has to defend in this race.
Edit: I like the fact Lewis came out pretty bluntly about it now and said how he did it to him all through 2021. This reel came up on my FB - I usually avoid them but just thought it’s hilarious that a caption of “2021 title fight was wild” showing a lot of the incidents ended up being 9 out of 10 clips showing Verstappen doing exactly what he did to Norris
The whole Brazil 2021 thing isn't controversial either, Max was within the rules, except Lewis was smart enough to try an illegal overtake off-circuit.
lol yeah ok :S
Hard to take you seriously given how bias you are. There's literally no evidence in your favour.
Whether you like the rule or not, it's right there in the regulations. Lewis was behind at the apex so he lost advantage, second time round he managed to cover the inside line and complete the overtake.
Soldato
Spot on, given he's a self confessed Red Bull and Max hater we all have the 'common sense' to know exactly where the bias is.
I just tend to ignore him these days.
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damnit i said i wasn't going to respond any more to the situation but just reading Motorsports article Mclaren actually tried to introduce the stewards own verdict as new evidence, has the Ferrari Strategy team moved to Mclaren legal??
i've been a Mclaren fan since the 80's but they really need to get their house together and stop the clownshows.
i've been a Mclaren fan since the 80's but they really need to get their house together and stop the clownshows.
Soldato
Yeah McLaren need to get a few men on board to lead the boys.
Reacting to every one of my posts with a smiley is what you call ignoring me? lol.
I think they’re just learning too late what it means when you race RB — with the current state of stewarding if you don’t fight them off the track and in the stewards room you’ll get nowhere. Even with the furore surrounding the Austin incident Horner is still just parroting the “you can’t overtake off the track” line like that’s what the issue is..
