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MSI gtx 670 Power edition "none oc" edition owners thread
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No, as it is.
I have started getting quite a lot of Bsod crashes and "Video scheduler internal error" message being displayed. Even with the cards at stock I'm still getting this. Going to try a clean driver install of different versions and then test the cards individually.
K well the "OC" One i got has ASCI of 69% and its max OC +100mz on core +115 Mem so.
1120
1560
boost 1192
If the non OC ones go higher its MSI binning cards badly not OCUK they just sell them. Be angry at MSI.
Puts me of buying MSI cards in future if they don't even seem to test bin them with much effort.
1120
1560
boost 1192
If the non OC ones go higher its MSI binning cards badly not OCUK they just sell them. Be angry at MSI.
Puts me of buying MSI cards in future if they don't even seem to test bin them with much effort.
Agree.I am not really angry at overclockers. In fact so far they have been understanding. I am awaiting a final reply on Tuesday from them about it.
It is MSI binning cards badly. I dont care about "gauranteed minimum boost clock/core clock e.t.c". If a non overclocked version boosts out of the box higher or the same as an overclocked version, its not right.
Looks like most of us are hitting these sort of ranges:
Core 915 = 1100 to 1150 Max Boost
Core 915+(100 to 120) = 1200 to 1250 Max Boost
so averaging around a +200 Max Boost over core clock regardless of overclock. Jono is hitting +130 boost over core (stated 1150 Max Boost, no overclock vs 1019 core). Just clarifying this as Jono's not been too clear stating the exact issue and I had to go back over his post to try and work out what his real problem was.
From the guide over on overclock.net, its states Kepler boosts can vary from 104-234 with most between 130-143, adding to the base boost on the non OC version of 65 (980-915) this gives us 195-208 tying up nicely with whats seen above. You seem to be seeing a much lower number you have a base boost of 60 (1079-1019) and a Kepler boost of only 71.
It does state Kepler boosts can go lower than 104 but also that Kepler boosts can be throttled down if your GPU temperature is too high or the card is unable to draw enough power. You might want to try the test shown in there and obtain your Kepler boost Value to confirm this and make sure it isnt your temperature throttling your card (ie >=70C), if not that then hopefully somebody can chime in and tell you how to confirm it isn't a power limitation (and how to tell the difference between a bad card or PSU issue).
Please correct me if anything is wrong here, just stating from what I've read, no expert.
Core 915 = 1100 to 1150 Max Boost
Core 915+(100 to 120) = 1200 to 1250 Max Boost
so averaging around a +200 Max Boost over core clock regardless of overclock. Jono is hitting +130 boost over core (stated 1150 Max Boost, no overclock vs 1019 core). Just clarifying this as Jono's not been too clear stating the exact issue and I had to go back over his post to try and work out what his real problem was.
From the guide over on overclock.net, its states Kepler boosts can vary from 104-234 with most between 130-143, adding to the base boost on the non OC version of 65 (980-915) this gives us 195-208 tying up nicely with whats seen above. You seem to be seeing a much lower number you have a base boost of 60 (1079-1019) and a Kepler boost of only 71.
It does state Kepler boosts can go lower than 104 but also that Kepler boosts can be throttled down if your GPU temperature is too high or the card is unable to draw enough power. You might want to try the test shown in there and obtain your Kepler boost Value to confirm this and make sure it isnt your temperature throttling your card (ie >=70C), if not that then hopefully somebody can chime in and tell you how to confirm it isn't a power limitation (and how to tell the difference between a bad card or PSU issue).
Please correct me if anything is wrong here, just stating from what I've read, no expert.
This is how I understand binning (I might be wrong):
MSI produce a great number of cards for which they cannot test every individuals. So the binning process would be something like testing random samples and deciding which can be retained for OC version. Obviously there are some rules for a card to pass OC testing, like stable temps, boost, etc. As a result, there are still thousands of cards that are not tested for OC. This lot will be marked as non-OC version. They can be either better clockers or not able to clock any further - silicon lottery really. So the problem in Jono's case could be MSI not binning hard enough, say, they produce 10k cards for PE and only test against 2k and get 1k OC version.
I can indeed feel how the power consumption affect boost. I have 1025 core and 1090 boost in GPU-Z. The 1090 should be some typical number since the sensor states 1215 when running Unigine (~96% power load). However, if I run furmark (104% power load) I got only 1110 boost under the same conditions. I guess temps has similar effect to boost so air flow plays important role here.
MSI produce a great number of cards for which they cannot test every individuals. So the binning process would be something like testing random samples and deciding which can be retained for OC version. Obviously there are some rules for a card to pass OC testing, like stable temps, boost, etc. As a result, there are still thousands of cards that are not tested for OC. This lot will be marked as non-OC version. They can be either better clockers or not able to clock any further - silicon lottery really. So the problem in Jono's case could be MSI not binning hard enough, say, they produce 10k cards for PE and only test against 2k and get 1k OC version.
I can indeed feel how the power consumption affect boost. I have 1025 core and 1090 boost in GPU-Z. The 1090 should be some typical number since the sensor states 1215 when running Unigine (~96% power load). However, if I run furmark (104% power load) I got only 1110 boost under the same conditions. I guess temps has similar effect to boost so air flow plays important role here.
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Just been testing my cards and one of them is knackered. Even on its own I get the same blue screens and error messages. Tried different drivers and even a clean install with no luck. The other one works perfect.
A bit of a pain as there are no more and my OCD will not let me miss match GPU's. I shall see what can be done.
A bit of a pain as there are no more and my OCD will not let me miss match GPU's. I shall see what can be done.
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Got mine installed today. A sexy beautiful piece of kit.. 
Runs at stock fine and dandy a good 50% better than my 570 (at stock).
Now to overclock this beast.
Runs at stock fine and dandy a good 50% better than my 570 (at stock).
Now to overclock this beast.
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Thats a lie- 1063
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4gb's now for an asus 670. I wonder if that would have been a better bet for a pair of 670's in sli?
Regardless, i will never again be buying any of the first stock clearence offers overclockers get
. Wait a few weeks, save loads. Wasnt the 4gb Asus £30 more expensive to those that pre-ordered?
Regardless, i will never again be buying any of the first stock clearence offers overclockers get
. Wait a few weeks, save loads. Wasnt the 4gb Asus £30 more expensive to those that pre-ordered?
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That was me. 61.4% and I had to underclock by 150Mhz before it would stop crashing during any kind of stress. (Neither cooling or power are issues)
I have an RMA, but haven't managed to send it in yet. Will be doing so this week.
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Just had a go at overclocking now. The boost feature is pretty confusing but managed to work it out.
Was aiming for 1200 core but that was a long shot..
The highest i've managed to get is 1160/1550 which isn't too bad atall.. Im happy. Though only a 5% increase in FPS from my sleeping dogs stock bench. Ohh well..
Some of you should do some sleeping dogs benching in Kapp's thread if you have it..
Only 2 670's in there so far and im one of them (the highest)
Was aiming for 1200 core but that was a long shot..
The highest i've managed to get is 1160/1550 which isn't too bad atall.. Im happy. Though only a 5% increase in FPS from my sleeping dogs stock bench. Ohh well..
Some of you should do some sleeping dogs benching in Kapp's thread if you have it..
Only 2 670's in there so far and im one of them (the highest)
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Tested my 2nd 670 (non OC) last night and is a slightly better clocker than the 1st. this one is stable at 1296MHz (Last 1280MHz) so both my £161 Non OC cards are great overclockers. Not sure if that's a coincidence or what. Scored 890 in heaven 4.0, which is fairly high, up there with the 680's
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THose are great clocks, only managing to get mine to 1160 stable, still happy with that though.. Haven't played with the mem clock yet.
Just had a go at overclocking now. The boost feature is pretty confusing but managed to work it out.
Was aiming for 1200 core but that was a long shot..
The highest i've managed to get is 1160/1550 which isn't too bad atall.. Im happy. Though only a 5% increase in FPS from my sleeping dogs stock bench. Ohh well..
Some of you should do some sleeping dogs benching in Kapp's thread if you have it..
Only 2 670's in there so far and im one of them (the highest)
Get the memory clocked up and you should make up some ground on the 680's in that bench.