MSI's X570 Tomahawk May Become Go-To OC Board??

kidloco · 7 Dec 2020 at 16:05

Got this board last week, it's my first AMD build since the old XP2500

Stuck in a 3700X as a stop-gap, 5600X will be here this week.

Got a 1080TI on a Kraken AIO still, when there is stock of the 3080 ill upgrade that.

The build was very easy, great layout, easy to work with.

The annoying thing with this new build is because I went from a mini ITX board to this. It means I cant fit the GPU AIO on the top as the PCIE slot is lower. Tubes aren't long enough. Its meant I've had to mount it on the front, and ditch the 360 rad I was using to cool the CPU, and replace it with a smaller one. So the 3700X temps are sat at 40-50 rather than the 30-40 they were on the 360 rad.

Stu · 7 Dec 2020 at 17:02

deuse said:
I was looking in to getting an AMD cpu and this motherboard.

But why does the AMD version only have 1 lan port
And the Intel version has 2, one of which is 2.5GB lan?

I see a lot of AMD boards cheap out.

You are correct that there is one LAN port, but it is 2.5Gbps (your post implies the X570 board does not match the Z490 with regard to 2.5Gbps LAN).

Stu · 7 Dec 2020 at 17:04

TitusTroy said:
is there any performance difference between the 2 NVMe slots on this board?...the top one uses the CPU PCIe lanes so theoretically I'm assuming that's the best place to install it?...the bottom NVMe uses the X570 chipset...but the top slot seems like it would be hard to reach once you install a giant CPU cooler like the Noctua NH-D15...if I ever need to swap out my NVMe drive I don't want to have to remove the CPU cooler

In theory I think they should be the same, but I believe there may be variation depending on your SSD... for example, there is data out there showing the the ADATA SX8200 Pro performs faster in the slot that uses the CPU PCIe lanes.

deuse · 7 Dec 2020 at 17:10

Stu said:
You are correct that there is one LAN port, but it is 2.5Gbps (your post implies the X570 board does not match the Z490 with regard to 2.5Gbps LAN).

If you read my post I say that the intel version has 2 lan ports and the AMD cheaped out with 1

Stu · 7 Dec 2020 at 17:27

deuse said:
If you read my post I say that the intel version has 2 lan ports and the AMD cheaped out with 1

"But why does the AMD version only have 1 lan port
And the Intel version has 2, one of which is 2.5GB lan?"

Can you not see that someone would read this as the AMD board not matching 2 ports and 2.5 Gbps?

SpudMaster · 7 Dec 2020 at 18:05

Stu said:
"But why does the AMD version only have 1 lan port
And the Intel version has 2, one of which is 2.5GB lan?"

Can you not see that someone would read this as the AMD board not matching 2 ports and 2.5 Gbps?

Thats how I read it anyway

deuse · 7 Dec 2020 at 19:35

Stu said:
"But why does the AMD version only have 1 lan port
And the Intel version has 2, one of which is 2.5GB lan?"

Can you not see that someone would read this as the AMD board not matching 2 ports and 2.5 Gbps?

I clearly stated that one board has 2 lan ports and the other has only one.

My question was. Why is it that amd boards makers cheap out?

Stu · 7 Dec 2020 at 19:52

deuse said:
I clearly stated that one board has 2 lan ports and the other has only one.

My question was. Why is it that amd boards makers cheap out?

You didn't clearly state that, even ignoring your poor punctuation and grammar.

You seem very angry... take a breather and then read your original post again. SpudMaster read it the same way as me, so your intention was clearly not clear!

Also, while we are being clear, neither board has a 2.5 GB LAN port, but both have a 2.5 Gbps LAN port.

deuse · 7 Dec 2020 at 20:21

Stu said:
You didn't clearly state that, even ignoring your poor punctuation and grammar.

You seem very angry... take a breather and then read your original post again. SpudMaster read it the same way as me, so your intention was clearly not clear!

Also, while we are being clear, neither board has a 2.5 GB LAN port, but both have a 2.5 Gbps LAN port.

Get a grip.

The intel version taken from MSI
"1x Realtek® RTL8125B-CG 2.5G LAN Controller + 1x Intel I219V 1G LAN"

AMD version

"1x Realtek® 8125B 2.5Gbps LAN Controller"

I need faster than a slow 1GB lan as my network is 10GB.

Stu · 7 Dec 2020 at 21:13

deuse said:
Get a grip.

The intel version taken from MSI
"1x Realtek® RTL8125B-CG 2.5G LAN Controller + 1x Intel I219V 1G LAN"

AMD version

"1x Realtek® 8125B 2.5Gbps LAN Controller"

I need faster than a slow 1GB lan as my network is 10GB.

Get a grip? What are you on about? Unless you work for NASA, I can pretty much guarantee that your network speed is not 10 GBps.

I could drag this out all night, though I'm sure my curiosity will wain as to whether you are struggling with technical detail or the alphabet.

D.Trump · 7 Dec 2020 at 23:38

I just flashed my tomahawk slow flashes into faster flashes and around 5 mins the light stopped blinking, but the mobo stayed on it did not restart, most users here have stated it restarts, maybe i missed it. It does not state it restarts on the manual.
My cpu is arriving tomorrow morning, question is if it went wrong can i still do the bios usb flash with my cpu socketed ?

TitusTroy · 8 Dec 2020 at 00:16

D.Trump said:
I just flashed my tomahawk slow flashes into faster flashes and around 5 mins the light stopped blinking, but the mobo stayed on it did not restart, most users here have stated it restarts, maybe i missed it. It does not state it restarts on the manual.
My cpu is arriving tomorrow morning, question is if it went wrong can i still do the bios usb flash with my cpu socketed ?

I did a Flash BIOS this morning...mine restarted but it was very quick...the chipset fan shuts off and maybe 2 seconds later it turns back on

deuse · 8 Dec 2020 at 06:59

Stu said:
Get a grip? What are you on about? Unless you work for NASA, I can pretty much guarantee that your network speed is not 10 GBps.

I could drag this out all night, though I'm sure my curiosity will wain as to whether you are struggling with technical detail or the alphabet.

Just learnt my first lesson about AMD fan boys.

I will leave you to you cheapo\hardware missing boards

Rob_brum · 8 Dec 2020 at 07:20

D.Trump said:
, question is if it went wrong can i still do the bios usb flash with my cpu socketed ?

Yes

Stu · 8 Dec 2020 at 10:11

deuse said:
Just learnt my first lesson about AMD fan boys.

I will leave you to you cheapo\hardware missing boards

AMD fan boy? I'm running an Intel Xeon rig

I just appreciate decent comprehension and grammar, attention to detail, and understand the difference between gigabits and gigabytes.

Paradiso · 8 Dec 2020 at 10:30

D.Trump said:
I just flashed my tomahawk slow flashes into faster flashes and around 5 mins the light stopped blinking, but the mobo stayed on it did not restart, most users here have stated it restarts, maybe i missed it. It does not state it restarts on the manual.
My cpu is arriving tomorrow morning, question is if it went wrong can i still do the bios usb flash with my cpu socketed ?

I flash my x570 tomahawk a week or so ago, it took over 10mins. To be safe just start the process and walk away for 20minutes.

neviditelny · 8 Dec 2020 at 11:31

Hopefully I will be putting my computer together this weekend (just waiting for the PSU). Just want to double check something in regards of flashing my Tomahawk mobo.

I need to download and install the new BIOS on a USB-stick (preferable a 2.0 stick someone said earlier in the thread?)
Then connect the mobo to the PSU and connect the USB-stick to the mobo (can any port be used or is it a dedicated flash port?)

Rob_brum · 8 Dec 2020 at 12:33

neviditelny said:
Hopefully I will be putting my computer together this weekend (just waiting for the PSU). Just want to double check something in regards of flashing my Tomahawk mobo.

I need to download and install the new BIOS on a USB-stick (preferable a 2.0 stick someone said earlier in the thread?)
Then connect the mobo to the PSU and connect the USB-stick to the mobo (can any port be used or is it a dedicated flash port?)

Download the latest bios from the website, rename it "MSI.ROM" and copy it onto usb stick (?needs to be formatted fat32). looking at the mobo the top USB port is marked 'Flash bios'. Insert usb, switch on the power supply switch then there is a little button above the usb, hold it in for about 5 seconds and the mobo should come to life, as others have said mine took about 5 mins.

Destination · 8 Dec 2020 at 12:44

I wonder why the most recent BIOS is so much smaller than the preceding versions, or is that a sizing error on the website?

neviditelny · 8 Dec 2020 at 12:47

Rob_brum said:
Download the latest bios from the website, rename it "MSI.ROM" and copy it onto usb stick (?needs to be formatted fat32). looking at the mobo the top USB port is marked 'Flash bios'. Insert usb, switch on the power supply switch then there is a little button above the usb, hold it in for about 5 seconds and the mobo should come to life, as others have said mine took about 5 mins.

Ah that sounds great

I've ordered a usb-stick today as I can't find where I've put my other usb sticks... Sounds like it should be fairly straight forward then