Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread

Already purchased the ones above, they will be fine for now.

I didnt really want to spend too much anyway
 
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Ordered some Rc timer mini 20a ESC yesterday, just 2g a piece and getting some great initial feedback too. Looking forward to qctualy being able to fly never mind try some new hhardware!
 
DJMK4 said:
How so, have you purchased them? what performance did they give compared to the more expensive ones?
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I haven't but someone at my club and his stock dipole did better. I think he had dropped them.

My Spiro out did them and that's a strip of copper not a wire so not a true skew
 
Lisapete said:
I haven't but someone at my club and his stock dipole did better. I think he had dropped them.

My Spiro out did them and that's a strip of copper not a wire so not a true skew
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He dropped the ones that I linked? so were they broke?

I dont really want to spend too much thats the thing, the price I have been spending recently always creeps up on this, so want to try and keep it down if possible
 
Mass produced ones won't be so accurately made and won't give as good range. The aerials are tuned in so far as the (I think I remember correctly) the total length of the lobes is the equivalent of one wavelength at 5800mhz, any difference from this affects the range. The length of the cable from the lobes to the plug also has an effect, as does the quality of the cable and soldering.

To be honest though, get cheap ones to start off. You wont get great range but you also wont kick yourself when you crash the quad on the first flight out and trash the antenna. Don't ask me how I know this.
 
gandhi said:
Mass produced ones won't be so accurately made and won't give as good range. The aerials are tuned in so far as the (I think I remember correctly) the total length of the lobes is the equivalent of one wavelength at 5800mhz, any difference from this affects the range. The length of the cable from the lobes to the plug also has an effect, as does the quality of the cable and soldering.

To be honest though, get cheap ones to start off. You wont get great range but you also wont kick yourself when you crash the quad on the first flight out and trash the antenna. Don't ask me how I know this.
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I havnt used the FPV gear on my 250 yet, I have on the 450, and I am pretty confident with that and likelyhood of crashing that is 0.5% really.

I havnt placed the order for the cheaper ones, managed to get a reverse. If im flying with the 250 I will probably start off with the stock antennas for the FPV gear, and move on to the cloverleaf ones


So the cheaper £18 cloverleaf, will I see any gain from the stock antennas?

I may go for the £28 ones but may wait until end of the month now, not in a massive rush
 
DJ I love your confidence mate. I had not one single crash in self level or horizon mode, not a single broken prop. Acro mode I have broken 40+ props, snapped a base frame made form 3k woven carbon fibre, cracked it replacement and smashed the protective cover off of my fpv fat shark antenna. Oh I also blew a bearing on a motor too. I consider myself to be ok at flying too, mind you only ok!

If you are not crashing it you are not flying hard enough matey :D
 
DJMK4 said:
I havnt used the FPV gear on my 250 yet, I have on the 450, and I am pretty confident with that and likelyhood of crashing that is 0.5% really.

I havnt placed the order for the cheaper ones, managed to get a reverse. If im flying with the 250 I will probably start off with the stock antennas for the FPV gear, and move on to the cloverleaf ones


So the cheaper £18 cloverleaf, will I see any gain from the stock antennas?

I may go for the £28 ones but may wait until end of the month now, not in a massive rush
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Depends how well they are made. You might get a good one, you might not. I've had several of those as well as some very nice IBCrazy ones that cost me the best part of £50 for the set. Even though the more expensive have been completely mangled, resoldered and generally abused, I still get better range from them.

Close proximity flying on the 250 quad you will always get signal dropouts behind trees and from other interference. If you want to do naughty long range flights on the 450 you would be better off getting a semi decent antenna for the vtx and a really good helical or other directional antenna for the rx side of things.
 
Kanifee said:
DJ I love your confidence mate. I had not one single crash in self level or horizon mode, not a single broken prop. Acro mode I have broken 40+ props, snapped a base frame made form 3k woven carbon fibre, cracked it replacement and smashed the protective cover off of my fpv fat shark antenna. Oh I also blew a bearing on a motor too. I consider myself to be ok at flying too, mind you only ok!

If you are not crashing it you are not flying hard enough matey :D
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Oh dont worry iv crashed the 250 a few times :p the latest one broke 4 props and ripped my battery off (and tore 1 x battery power pad). Luckily it only took off the top copper layer, there is a thinner silver layer underneath (which I checked I can still power the model through :p) so I need to re-solder that and tie up the battery connector properly (with some cable ties) so if the battery flings off again it shouldnt rip of off clean)

Also have 2 x spare power pads at the other end, so I guess I could turn the board around if it happened again.


But iv not flown the 250 with FPV, and I use angle mode, and when I want to do some flips, swap to horizon mode quickly and then flick back.



The 450, apart from when I have had a couple of lands and it topples over (not so much on my new legs) I havnt had any major crashes, but I only fly in GPS, or Atti, not manual.

I did have the one incident with it (cut the motors in mid flight and couldnt start them up again, using the stick positons, naza v2 lies, there is no intelligent motors, they cut out if you use the arm/disarm sticks, but dont try it)

Im still building up confidence on the 250, but going through a lot of the stock props.



RE: The FPV antenna's I may just go for the £28 ones, but will buy end of the month most likely, not in a rush. How easy are they to mangle?
 
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I would just fly horizon only if I was you, you shouldn't be hitting the stick limits at all unless performing rolls anyway so is essentially self level until you hit the limits of the throws. To prepare for rate mode get used to using very small inputs, its easy to just throw the sticks to the ends of the gimbal but to really progress slight inputs and much finer control rewards you more.

I have said it a few times in this thread but investing a small amount of money into a rc simulator you can use your tx with on the pc returns an infinite amount of reward and also is great for when it is windy and can not fly, like now! So much easier to learn and grasp the mechanics of rate mode etc and enables you to experience helis and planes too. The taranis is awesome as well because there is no need for a tx to usb adaptor for the trainer port like most other tx's, just plug in the usb to the taranis and away you go.

I am now building a plane and contemplating a collective pitch micro heli also.
 
Kanifee said:
I would just fly horizon only if I was you, you shouldn't be hitting the stick limits at all unless performing rolls anyway so is essentially self level until you hit the limits of the throws. To prepare for rate mode get used to using very small inputs, its easy to just throw the sticks to the ends of the gimbal but to really progress slight inputs and much finer control rewards you more.

I have said it a few times in this thread but investing a small amount of money into a rc simulator you can use your tx with on the pc returns an infinite amount of reward and also is great for when it is windy and can not fly, like now! So much easier to learn and grasp the mechanics of rate mode etc and enables you to experience helis and planes too. The taranis is awesome as well because there is no need for a tx to usb adaptor for the trainer port like most other tx's, just plug in the usb to the taranis and away you go.

I am now building a plane and contemplating a collective pitch micro heli also.
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Funny you bring this up I have been flying in Horizon mode for around 6 months anyway I decided a few days back I will start to fly in only rate mode. Yesterday I spent 2 hours or so on Phoenix RC with FPV & rate. Today I done my first 5 minute flight in rate mode with no crashes and picked it up fairly quickly. I much prefer the feel of rate mode already, doesn't feel like your constantly fighting with it.
 
Kanifee said:
I would just fly horizon only if I was you, you shouldn't be hitting the stick limits at all unless performing rolls anyway so is essentially self level until you hit the limits of the throws. To prepare for rate mode get used to using very small inputs, its easy to just throw the sticks to the ends of the gimbal but to really progress slight inputs and much finer control rewards you more.

I have said it a few times in this thread but investing a small amount of money into a rc simulator you can use your tx with on the pc returns an infinite amount of reward and also is great for when it is windy and can not fly, like now! So much easier to learn and grasp the mechanics of rate mode etc and enables you to experience helis and planes too. The taranis is awesome as well because there is no need for a tx to usb adaptor for the trainer port like most other tx's, just plug in the usb to the taranis and away you go.

I am now building a plane and contemplating a collective pitch micro heli also.
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Which simulator are using for the taranis chap? I had a brief look at some a while ago and they all looked about £100?
 
Phoenix RC 5, I got it from ebay for around £12 with cables and usb dongle, it's a 6 in 1 dongle that you plug the trainer cable into. They have the updates on their site that you can download and install manually. Once you select and 3D map you can enable FPV mode.
 
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I bought phoenix a good 4-5 years ago, was something like £40 back then

May look at it for that price.

I was contenplating building another plane after I attempted to fly them a few years ago, but probably something like a bixler or bixler 2 as they are easy to launch, I had a nitro plane and a foamy before, you need some decent ground to take off on, no so easy to find when you dont have a lot of options, and dont really like the whole "club" thing.

Yeah I will start getting used to horizon mode more.
 
Phoenix still costs £70-£80.

The one mentioned above is a pirated version.

I have both a genuine copy bought around 2010, and a snide one I got more recently, just so I don't wear out the cable on my original dongle as I use it every day.
 
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