Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread

Thanks.

I went to B&Q but could only find 12mm x 15mm. Wickes have 12x12 but only had one piece which wasn't very straight.

Be weary of the mobius cam if you're using GPS. It seems it gives off some RF that interferes with it. There are plenty of videos on Youtube about it.
The 10.5x10.5mm sticks aren't by the normal pine strips (at least in my local b&q) they're round the other side of the aisle. ;)
 
Be weary of the mobius cam if you're using GPS. It seems it gives off some RF that interferes with it. There are plenty of videos on Youtube about it.
Yeah, it does seem to be a problem however my GPs is in the centre of my frame and the mobius is on the nose about 10cm away and the RF noise is fine at that seperation :) I get a full and strong lock, not that I ever really use GPS modes but I see it on my OSD :p as long as your GPS is a little way away you're golden :)
 
Ahha, someone flying commercially. I have questions.
Did you do the BNUC-S or the RPQ-S qualification to obtain your CAA permission to perform aerial work? I've been getting ready to take the BNUC-S but some people are saying to do the RPQ-S instead.

I wondered if you have a view on this?

The RPQ-S from what I've read seems slightly more relaxed (no ops. manuals etc for the test flight).

Very important now (as you're obviously aware but pretty much everyone else is ignorant of) as the CAA are cracking down on uncertificated individuals/businesses.
 
Cool, I'm using an APM too so you "should" have a similar result. Not flown a tri with the APM but if it's anything as good as the quad setup you'll have a ball, it's an incredible FC :)
 
The RPQ-S from what I've read seems slightly more relaxed (no ops. manuals etc for the test flight).

Very important now (as you're obviously aware but pretty much everyone else is ignorant of) as the CAA are cracking down on uncertificated individuals/businesses.

I think I'd probably want my Ops Manual to be checked at this point in the procedure as I was under the impression it was mandatory for the CAA permission?

I've started work on ours and to be honest, it's pretty tedious work. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible but for it to include all of the relevant info as well as the stuff that I see fit is a pretty major task :( Probably gonna take considerably longer than configuring, building, learning & teaching to fly the damn thing hahahaha!

There's also not much help out there beyond the CAA template as most people guard theirs quite closely from what I have been able to tell, as it's considered to be commercially sensitive!
 
I think I'd probably want my Ops Manual to be checked at this point in the procedure as I was under the impression it was mandatory for the CAA permission?

I've started work on ours and to be honest, it's pretty tedious work. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible but for it to include all of the relevant info as well as the stuff that I see fit is a pretty major task :( Probably gonna take considerably longer than configuring, building, learning & teaching to fly the damn thing hahahaha!

There's also not much help out there beyond the CAA template as most people guard theirs quite closely from what I have been able to tell, as it's considered to be commercially sensitive!

Yeah, I'm working on mine at the moment too. It's hard work and difficult to know how much detail I should go in to.
The advice I've been given is to focus on the main systems of the craft and leave details about wiring etc out. Include a lot of detail about RTH and other failsafes and to have plenty of detail about maintenance schedules and safety procedures such as landing-zone site surveys etc.

It's a real ball-ache to be honest. The whole certification process and obtaining CAA permission is a nightmare and very, very slow. They reckon 6 - 10 weeks from passing the cert and applying for permission, to actually getting a response from the CAA.

At this rate, it's unlikely I'll be able to undertake any paid work this year as I'm not planning to do the flight exam until April at the earliest.
 
6-10 weeks is ridiculous but about par for a large organisation I guess. I'm sure permissions are quite low down on their list of priorities on a day-day basis!

We're pretty much in the same boat except we already have a fairly large client base who should hopefully (if my market research is correct) want to use the service and our peak period is may-october, so we should hopefully get at least some work though the door before winter sets in. I suspect we will end sub-contracting some of it in the interim if needs be.
 
No,

The permission just enables you to fly commercially for a year. No need to re-apply each time. Although flights are limited by the CAA to be;

1) Not in congested areas (this means towns/cities for example)
2) Not within 150m of people or property no under the control of the UAS pilot
3) Not above 400ft
4) Not at night

Although you can apply to the CAA to have a specific permission to fly under those conditions if you can comply with safety/due diligence/experience etc.

I'm not sure what the penalties are for commercial flight without permission or in breach of these conditions but I seem to recall a fairly hefty fine was part of it and I would imagine prosecution for endangering property/life etc.

I'm only part way there learning all this stuff :)
 
Quick question regarding regulations and licenses.
Im currently building this drone for film production work for my university assignments, however i wish to also use it for and client work i might get.
What protocols and procedures would i have to go with?

edit: also i would imagine that other students on my course would want to use this for their films, so would they be allowed to operate it themselves?
 
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No,

The permission just enables you to fly commercially for a year. No need to re-apply each time. Although flights are limited by the CAA to be;

1) Not in congested areas (this means towns/cities for example)
2) Not within 150m of people or property no under the control of the UAS pilot
3) Not above 400ft
4) Not at night

Although you can apply to the CAA to have a specific permission to fly under those conditions if you can comply with safety/due diligence/experience etc.

I'm not sure what the penalties are for commercial flight without permission or in breach of these conditions but I seem to recall a fairly hefty fine was part of it and I would imagine prosecution for endangering property/life etc.

I'm only part way there learning all this stuff :)

Thanks, #2 makes the whole commercial thing almost impossible. For example, doing a shot of someones house for them, you are within 150m of other houses.

CAA have really killed this....
 
Quick question regarding regulations and licenses.
Im currently building this drone for film production work for my university assignments, however i wish to also use it for and client work i might get.
What protocols and procedures would i have to go with?

edit: also i would imagine that other students on my course would want to use this for their films, so would they be allowed to operate it themselves?

If you wish to use it for any commercial activity you must obtain CAA permission to undertake aerial work. This requires you to obtain either the BNUC-S or the RPQ-S certification which involves a course, written exam, flight assessment and production and approval of your flight operations manual for every craft you wish to fly.
Factor on around £1500 for the course and exams, then around 30 hours to produce your operations manual.
Once you have these things you can apply to the CAA for permission but must fly within the limits outlined by gandhi in his post above.
You will also need public liabilities insurance before you can take the flight exam.
 
Thanks, #2 makes the whole commercial thing almost impossible. For example, doing a shot of someones house for them, you are within 150m of other houses.

CAA have really killed this....

Yes, but I can see why. I would not want to see a 7kg MR hovering over my garden with camera strapped underneath whilst the missus was getting changed in the bedroom and nor would I want (Yes, DJI, I'm looking at you!) suffering from a flyaway and crashing into my property. The safety of people is also quite important. Not sure if you've ever googled multirotor injuries but there is a great thread on RCgroups that shows the damage a 17" carbon prop can do when spinning at 4k rpm! I for one, would not want that on my conscience!

Property photography is what we do and to be honest the market for elevated photographs of town properties is limited to a degree and most of the time we can fulfil this requirement using a standard 25' or 50' pole with a motorised head.

It's the larger estates and landed properties that we will end up using it for and we should be within CAA spec for those!
 
Just spent ages flicking through this thread. :D

I've got a hexbot quad copter (http://hexairbot.com/) coming at the end of the month hopefully, but I think if I have fun with it I can see myself getting a bigger one at some point. :)

Looks like you can have a lot of fun building, modding and flying them. :)
 
If you wish to use it for any commercial activity you must obtain CAA permission to undertake aerial work. This requires....

Thanks for the quick reply. So would i still have to follow regulations highlighted in gandhi's post if it was just for university work/personal videos?

I'll be sure to read up on this all once im free today
 
Thanks for the quick reply. So would i still have to follow regulations highlighted in gandhi's post if it was just for university work/personal videos?

I'll be sure to read up on this all once im free today

Depends.

CAA's description is "valuable consideration" that defines what is Aerial Work and what isn't and therefore what you need a permission for.

valuable consideration n. a necessary element of a contract, which confers a benefit on the other party. Valuable consideration can include money, work, performance, assets, a promise, or abstaining from an act.

If it's just for your own benefit, you don't need a Permission from the CAA but you should follow the guidelines they set out.
 
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