My Log Burner...

Usel · 26 Oct 2012 at 14:38

^ had one of those style fires before we got the stove installed. OURS was rubbish, took up space which stopped it working as an open fire with the door open and with it shut it trapped the heat in to help send it up the chimney.

wilber · 26 Oct 2012 at 15:21

That was my concern it did seem to warn the room quite decent last night but I'll get it all finished up before passing judgement.

Mr.E. · 26 Oct 2012 at 16:21

Not the best picture, from Zoopla cos the house is now for sale.

It's a Stratford 25HE, big lump of a fire but heats the whole house plus the hot water.

Spit · 26 Oct 2012 at 17:07

Got mine on now, mmmm toasty, great on cold days like this

PaulStat · 30 Oct 2012 at 13:42

Only had the one quote so far for installation, will get more, but does this sound expensive?

904 grade liner £1200
Insulate chimney liner £350
Supply and fit new chimney pot £50
Scaffolding £300

So that's £1900 not including a stove.

newbiejim · 30 Oct 2012 at 14:07

PaulStat said:
Only had the one quote so far for installation, will get more, but does this sound expensive?

904 grade liner £1200
Insulate chimney liner £350
Supply and fit new chimney pot £50
Scaffolding £300

So that's £1900 not including a stove.

Often you don't really need flue liner, I haven't used it and chimney *seems* fine, think about it, the chimney was built to do what the flue does.....

firestarter0230 · 30 Oct 2012 at 17:46

scaffold seems cheap enough , but the liner!!!
I would quote around £1200 including the insulation (if it is a normal 2 storey house)
Why do you need a new pot?
What age is the house?

PaulStat · 31 Oct 2012 at 09:54

firestarter0230 said:
scaffold seems cheap enough , but the liner!!!
I would quote around £1200 including the insulation (if it is a normal 2 storey house)
Why do you need a new pot?
What age is the house?

Not really sure why the new pot, it's quite a large detached Victorian house

firestarter0230 · 2 Nov 2012 at 17:15

As long as there is already a pot there and its in good condition you shouldnt need another.
I would question the insulation price as its only around £10 a bag and I doubt you will need 35 of them! As a rule its normally 8-10 bags max in a standard 9metre lined flue.
What stove you thinking of going for?
I usually fit Morso or Jotul which are top end but Stovax have a good range as do Capital , Yeoman and Hunter.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask!

firestarter0230 · 2 Nov 2012 at 17:21

newbiejim said:
Often you don't really need flue liner, I haven't used it and chimney *seems* fine, think about it, the chimney was built to do what the flue does.....

Not true!

Hetas rules state that if it is not clay lined and you are fitting a high efficiency burner you must fit a stainless steel liner in the stack to conform within guidelines as the gases and condensates can attack the mortar in the flue leading to leaks.
It is worth noting that woodburners do produce a certain amount of carbon monoxide (and we all know how bad that can be)
See here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wood-burning-stove-leaks-carbon-monoxide.html

firestarter0230 · 2 Nov 2012 at 17:40

wilber said:
snip

Looks to me like you have an old baxi back boiler in there, Is it still attached to the water system? If not you should stop using that asap.....

lego · 30 Nov 2012 at 16:39

Just got done installing my log burner for the winter, just a little 7KW one.

Fits lovely and snug in the space I had (I used to have a dummy basket with some logs for decoration)
oh and please ignore cables, sweeping brushes, and the TV, all will be moved and cleaned up!

norm · 30 Nov 2012 at 18:45

lego said:
Just got done installing my log burner for the winter, just a little 7KW one.

FYI the hearth you have in front of the stove doesn't meet building/safety regs.

If you using an appliance that is designed to run with the doors open then you must have at least 300mm in front of the stove.

http://www.woodburnerwarehouse.co.uk/building_regualtions_for_stoves.phtml

platypus · 30 Nov 2012 at 18:57

Are stoves designed to run with the doors open?

I thought the whole point is you use the vents to control the oxygen flow to get it burning and then once hot reduce the flow so it burns slowly. Certainly what we do, and I wouldn't have thought it matter when lighting/refuelling as you're in control of it?

newbiejim · 30 Nov 2012 at 19:04

firestarter0230 said:
Not true!

Hetas rules state that if it is not clay lined and you are fitting a high efficiency burner you must fit a stainless steel liner in the stack to conform within guidelines as the gases and condensates can attack the mortar in the flue leading to leaks.
It is worth noting that woodburners do produce a certain amount of carbon monoxide (and we all know how bad that can be)
See here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wood-burning-stove-leaks-carbon-monoxide.html

Really?, wonder how a high efficiency burner is defined?, my chimney is clay lined tho so all good , wonder how this would be any different from coal fires which we all had for years, seems a right carry on esp when these liners cost a fortune and have a relatively short lifespan.

ThriceNightly · 2 Dec 2012 at 19:10

Just got fireplace lit this evening for first time this season.

Original cast iron fireplace circa 1890. I built the hearth.

I'm burning a mixed selection of seasoned hardwood which I source myself ash/oak/hornbeam etc all foc.... quality free heat. Though I do sometimes burn coal in addition.

Due to be swept on 18/12...first time in ages

but I only use it mainly over xmas and chilly winter evenings.

Stretch · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:44

gt_junkie said:
Some nice burners and fire places in here!

Don't have one myself but my friend put a burner in a little while back. Completed the work all by himself including the plastering which was a recently acquired skill - his progress pictures are below:

Also, re: the TV comments. Another friend has a TV mounted in a similar position. Yes height is probably not ideal but heat isn't an issue since there's a large enough mantle.

You can actually feel the cool zone directly above the mantle where it deflects the fire's heat forwards.

gt

EDIT: Oh and here was the flue liner going in...

How did your friend get his bricks so clean.

Sonea Fifer · 12 Dec 2012 at 23:51

A friend of mine of FB has recently had his log burner installed and it too looks awesome. This might sound like a n00b question but do I have to have a chimney installed for one of these or can I simply get one installed on an outside wall?

Shaz]sigh[ · 13 Dec 2012 at 00:49

(I think) You can use a double skin flue which could be punched out through the roof. I believe I've seen them on the side of houses before but they look awful...

Sonea Fifer · 13 Dec 2012 at 00:55

Shaz]sigh[;23354401 said:
(I think) You can use a double skin flue which could be punched out through the roof. I believe I've seen them on the side of houses before but they look awful...

Thanks for that - didn't want this to seem like an obvious n00b question and genuinely wondering if they could be put on an outside wall?

Looks like my log burner will have to wait until we either move house or get our extension allowing my fireplace