My new Dell 2405FPW - pictures & first impressions

Nice one LaRZ, LOL!! Was looking at the 16:9 sizes available and just plumped for the highest res listed, never thought to look at the 16:10 sizes. Doh!!!!

Just tried it and WOW. Didn't imagine it could look any better but it did!

ic1male, glad you agree though, the scaling is nothing short of a miracle on these things and almost any res looks good stretched to full screen.
 
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Hey, Im gonna regularly post regarding my expirience with gaming. I hope its useful for gamers who are thinking of buying one.

So here's an update

My gaming expirience is improving. There are a few advantages to 2405. I like to put it on MAXIMUM Brightness, and Colour when Im gaming. And wow. Its Beautiful. The great thing is that I can clearly see anyone hiding in shadows. hahahahahahah. Some people think Im using a hack.

The ghosting.. Its defenitely there. If I swivel my mouse, looking at the buildings (specially one that has a bright blue background behind it) you can see two outlines. Not a major problem, but sometimes, not always, things feel a bit convoluted when Im playing quickly.
The afterglow is there too. More so than ghosting. Many people are saying they have finished a game without noticing ghosting. I believe them. Because online gaming is different. Shooting an AI target doesnt involve much agile movement. Because they stand around like baboons. But trying to pick off a human player is a lot different, often zig zagging around, standing\crouching, and running around. Meanwhile Im zig zagging and moving around aggressively aswell so that I dont get shot. Thats when the afterglow becomes frustrating.

However I am getting more used to it.
But is that a good thing? You can get used to a really bad CRT monitor aswell, but that doesnt mean its good.

The stretching and resolutions are great. I agree! With Call of Duty, playing in resolutions above 800X600 is fine. It gets better when u increase it, but its not a problem. And if it is, Dont stretch it. Really, I think people that are saying they dont want to buy one because their graphics card wouldnt be able to handle games at that resolution shouldnt be concerned. There are plenty of options.

Im starting to believe that I will get used to it.
 
Interesting point I have to make (more for comedy value than to get flamed ;)

When you, in real life, (some of us do live in the real world as opposed to the Matrix LOL), do things really stay pin sharp crt style when you spin your head around at rapid speeds? Didn't think so; so in reality, a little "fading/ghosting/blurring" is more realistic? Hahahaha....

It's a joke guys...........

guys?
 
OK I'm not UBER gamer but I have yet to see ghosting on these screens, maybe I either don't know what to look for or I'm just not susceptible to seeing it, I'm not saying its not there just that for most people I don't think it will even be an issue.

HEADRAT
 
RED555

I thought that was completely crap what you said
But then I shifted my field of vision really quickly.... and ** bloody right.
There is ghosting.... hahahahahahahaah
You make an awesome point.

Now if only all the online world would go LCD. I would jump on my 2405 in a heart beat. Cause I really do love it.
 
HeadRAt

I agree. I reckon some people see it, others dont. Even my girlfriend doesnt see it.
But then again... she doesnt see the point of games either.

So I reckon, in general most people dont see it. BUt I do think
CRT to LCD converters should be aware if they are buying a new computer for gaming.
It just doesnt have that crispness in motion....

I dont know what to make of this guys.
Today I was playing Call Of Duty. And my frags jumped up, really high. I was making headshots from everywhere. But the weird thing was... I felt like I wasnt in control like with the CRT. The shots are more guess work. I cant really see what Im shooting when I turn my head quickly. (Does anyone still remember the law of defraction of light... thats what it feels like). But I kept getting the shots. Numerous times, I could have sworn I missed. But it counted. Is this cause of my stretched setup. Bigger screen. Bigger heads hmmmmm
 
If a Display can show no noticable motion blur when sprinting within hlaflife 2 then the display is responsive enough for me. And the two 2405s I tried both performed just like a good vivid crt @ 60 hrz :) spot on.

When you turn (within a game) 180 v quickly, you should expect to see a little motion blur unless your eyes are tracking the image displayed at the speed of the rotation. This counteracts the distortion you would normally see, and even now these distortions of human persitance of vision are now being cleverly woven into our games, such as depth of field, retina exposure & motion blur.

anyhow in my opinion having widescreen is more of an advantage for gamers because games usually provide a wider field of view. Right now I play a little better on my widescreen 2005fpw (which does display noticable motion blur, sprinting)
than I do on my 21" diamondtron @ 120 hrz (damm smooooth).

Anyhow enuff waffling from me :)
 
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one new pic for you now i have my proper black / silver wireless mouse and keyboard combo :)
 
OT I know...Baddass, hows the new Microsoft keyboards? The last I had got hurled towards a wall as it kept not responding to keys even if the receiver was near the keyboard, but away from anything else, tried various places, still did it. Also, the F keys were not F's on boot, and the Insert, Delete, Home etc island is different. Print screen required unlocking F-lock to use, which just wound me up. I really liked the mouse though, although I have trained my right hand to use a mouse now with an MX700 (i'm a leftie).

I got a 2405 too now, its lush, not noticed ghosting, but then, I don't game much, just SA, like you :p Although, problems with the viewing angle are noticed with this forums background colour, but then I don't always sit dead centre to the screen. Really notice compression artifacts in pictures that I wasn't seeing before, DVD's aren't too bad if you sit away from the screen.
 
the keyboard is pretty good. had no issues really with responsiveness or key presses myself. hard to get used to the new layout of the home and delete keys etc but getting used to them now. The F keys you can get round using a reg tweak which makes them permanently whichever way you want them so i have them always as the F keys. I never used their functions anyway. Gues sprint screen is a pain having to toggle between F lock on/off. im quite happy with the set though, it has a nice feel to it and does the job well enough
 
I'd not be happy, knowing that there is a Logitech board (the one with the island in the top middle, with the radial volume control, Cordless Desktop MX afaik) with a proper keyboard layout :). This keyboard has taken a few knocks and drops, being used with a media pc for a short while, so I'll probably end up replacing it with a DiNuvo at some point or something. I never use the F keys either, they are on the Logitech's too, except F keys default to being F's! Every key is in the right place etc. Although, some of the newer Logitechs are playing the key shift-about game too now :(
 
i think im getting this montior by the end of this month :) so let's say i want to game at 1680x1050 9which apparently is the fav res for the 2405fpw for many reviewers) or 1280*1024 ...i will be able to ''stretch'' these resolutions to the whole 24inch screen? (no black bars or windows)?

i am askign this since some games such as fear and cod2 are barely playable on my 7800gtx above 1280*1024

can anyone post pics please?

thanks
 
macachia said:
i think im getting this montior by the end of this month :) so let's say i want to game at 1680x1050 9which apparently is the fav res for the 2405fpw for many reviewers) or 1280*1024 ...i will be able to ''stretch'' these resolutions to the whole 24inch screen? (no black bars or windows)?

i am askign this since some games such as fear and cod2 are barely playable on my 7800gtx above 1280*1024
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1680x1050 is good if you can get a fluid framerate, or drop your 1280x1024 to 1280x800 for a performance gain and the correct aspect ratio and a full screen.
 
Doing a quick calculation, 1680x1050 will scale to 1920x1200 very good filling the whole screen and the correct aspect. 1280x1024 will either scale up and stretch to the whole screen (maybe look a bit squashed) or else with the aspect-maintained stretch you will be playing at 1500x1200 and will have 200 pixels worth of black bars on each side of the image.
 
I've had a couple of days experience with the monitor now and from a purely gaming aspect, its the best purchase I have ever made.

Games I managed to try in that time were HL2, Quake4, Doom3, WoW, Warcraft3, Civ4, Duex Ex 2, Far Cry and a couple of others.

I didn't experience anything in any of the games that effected my enjoyment of them. Ghosting was minimal. To be honest I didn't notice any, but I am coming from a TFT to the 2405 and my eyes are 34 years old so maybe thats why.

Experiencing HL2 and WoW on these monitors is probably the most immersive and amazing gaming experience I have ever had. You don't realise what you miss from a game that supports WS natively until you try these two games.

The other games were great as well after some tweaking of the config files. This may be the only downpoint for some peeps. It requires a bit of fiddling if a game dosen't support WS out of the box but for me this was part of the fun of it as I enjoy tinkering.

Size!!! Its just so huge. That will take some getting used to. I may need a higher dpi mouse. :)

All of the opinions I read seem split with regards to the experience's people have had; some good, some bad. Its been amazing for me but I think it will all be down to the individual.

My system:

AMD 64 4000+
XFX 7800gtx
DFI Lan-Party NF4
1gb mem

The games ran on my system very well at 1900x1200 although for the games where I had to edit the config files to run the WS resolutions, I found 1680x1050 better. It scales well at lower resolutions in games but found the desktop a bit iffy below 1680x1050 and was best in 1900x1200 naturally.
 
It shouldn't take much power to run Windows at 1920xs1200 natively as it's all 2D. It does look much better at that res. I agree about the games though - HL2 and Far Cry at such high res look very nice indeed. I was disappointed about some recent games not having proper W/S support though like Doom 3 and Quake 4. Even when you fart about with the config and set them right they still don't seem "right" to me, if you get my drift. I was really chuffed that some old games like Max Payne support 1920x1200 natively. That was a nice surprise.
 
I think i gonna have to get myself one of these. I really need the extra space for desktop work. Will have to wait for playing at full rez on these for a while as i only have a 6800GT..

Are dead/stuck pixels a problem on these at all? I hate too get one at that price and have too look at them 24/7 :(
 
Not on mine. I have a feeling that OcUK actually checked mine before sending it out. The panel came with the VGA cable plugged into the back of it! I'm not going to think of the other option - that I got one that somebody else sent back! If I have, it's no problem. The screen is perfect.
 
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