Poll: National service not a bad thing?

Would twelve months National Service benefit our society and culture?

  • Yes

    Votes: 293 57.3%

  • No

    Votes: 218 42.7%
  • Total voters
    511
Few years in the TA when I started at college.

Good for many things, most endearing of which would be self discipline. Had some great times, good bunch of lads, so many things id have never experienced if I hadn't joined up.

Not sure on the compulsory national service, but as a one night a week, one weekend in four/eight it could work for many depending on circumstance.
 
Sliver said:
But it does help. It gives people qualifications in most cases that they can use in civilian life. I spent two years studying in the R.A.F. and the qualifications I gained got me jobs once I left. So personally I see the benefit of national service. If you've never served then you don't know.
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I mean aside from this stinking of arrogance, it's also facile.

You weren't forced to join the RAF, you chose to do it and it happened to help you. It would not necessarily help someone who has no choice or interest in spending their time doing the same.

Also as someone in the RAF, I would not enjoy working with people who have absolutely no desire be there.
 
Sliver said:
Garbage. Absolute nonsense. You know nothing about me or my life. Stop assuming arrogance and look in the mirror at your own arrogance of presumption. :rolleyes: Pathetic.
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Mmkay then.

I don't need to know anything about you or your life to respond to something you said. I didn't pass comment on anything other than what you wrote. I presumed nothing.
 
Nasher said:
Problem is it's not like in the old days where anyone could rock up, join the army and be a grunt for a few years (especially since the cut backs). There are entry requirements now and it's not for everyone. Plus there's no point forcing someone to join who just isn't up to it. They would spend the entire time failing and it would be a waste of money.

The reason kids have no discipline any more is because of the schools. The kids are basically allowed to do whatever they want and theres no punishment or correction allowed, not even a bit of good ol' shouting. That's also the reason for the big shortage of teachers, many just didn't want to put up with it any more.
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The problems start before school. It starts with the lack of discipline at home by the parents.

There are so many kids having kids they dont know how to handle it themselves.
 
easyrider said:
With the youth of today totally narcissist and preoccupied with the self...

Surely National service would bring some needed focus to them?

With unemployment and social issues rife...This could be a useful Avenue ?

I see no harm in 12 months tbh...

Thoughts?
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Sooooo... you've had a run in with a couple of chavs and suddenly want to enforce conscription on "the youth".

Surely you were drunk when you wrote this at 2am :confused:
 
Sliver said:
Exactly, you know nothing so don't be so arrogant to presume you do. :rolleyes:
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Not for the first time in this thread, you seem to have a massive problem following dialogue and are getting overly defensive/offensive about something that hasn't happened. I don't know what conversation you're having but it's not the same one as me.

Are you dyslexic?
 
Sliver said:
No. Just rational. :rolleyes: Keep up buddy. :rolleyes:
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Yeah. More than once, you have completely missed the point and become obnoxious in response to something that doesn't exist outside your own head. The irony being that you're telling me to keep up, LOL.

I don't know what else to say and I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter because you're not going to understand. Good night princess.
 
100% no. National service should be a choice, not a legal obligation.

I was never in the army and I grew up with manners and respect for other people. One does not automatically lead to the other.
 
Maybe if it were applied in a "not otherwise in education or employment" approach to sweep up those with no direction in life and give them a kick start but to apply it unilaterally to all teenagers as they reach a certain age is just utter nonsense and wouldn't benefit society in the slightest.
 
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