NEC LCD20WGX2 review *** UPDATED 25/02/06 ***

MDPlatts said:
or ring up the depot and arrange for alternate delivery address or personal collection :D
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Now, that's nasty. No, no, no ... we all love our Richard - THE RichDog. But ... I wonder, just wonder .... hmmmm :D
 
MDPlatts said:
you changed it in the e-mail text - but not the link - DOH!
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Maybe we should ask Baddass to intercept his post from the above. Where is the poor Richard anyway ? :) Just hope that tomorrow he will not bite his nails all day @ office, in desperate faith that his pretty monitor will (never) arrive safely with the city link courier ... who is just on the way to deliver the monitor to some distant, rural place in northern Scotland :(
 
igors said:
Maybe we should ask Baddass to intercept his post from the above. Where is the poor Richard anyway ? :) Just hope that tomorrow he will not bite his nails all day @ office, in desperate faith that his pretty monitor will (never) arrive safely with the city link courier ... who is just on the way to deliver the monitor to some distant, rural place in northern Scotland :(
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Current Status: These goods have been scanned at the collection branch and are now on route to the delivery branch.

Customer Reference: 1042070 WGT: 10.00KG Scheduled Delivery Date: 07/03/06

19:09 Monday, March 6, 2006 On route to delivery branch

Never get to scotland for the 7th!!
 
MDPlatts said:
you changed it in the e-mail text - but not the link - DOH!
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*punches self*

igors said:
Maybe we should ask Baddass to intercept his post from the above. Where is the poor Richard anyway ? :) Just hope that tomorrow he will not bite his nails all day @ office, in desperate faith that his pretty monitor will (never) arrive safely with the city link courier ... who is just on the way to deliver the monitor to some distant, rural place in northern Scotland :(
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Nails? What are these nails you speak of? *clutches bloody stumps*

Besides, if anyone changes this order I will personally track them down and break their kneecaps with a badminton racket (for no other reason than it is rarely done with a badminton racket).

:D

EDIT - Where has the quick reply box gone? :confused:
 
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So far so good Rich, goods are loaded onto a van ... but question on my lips is "who is driving that van" ? :D

Seriously now, I wish you all the luck you may need to receive this monitor safely. I had couple of traumatic incidents with city link, so I'm possibly on the paranoid side here. ;)
 
Cal_G said:
Mine has just this second turned up, how long should I leave it out for to warm up before switching it on?
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If monitor is brought from the freezing temperatures outside, just leave it 30min to acclimatize before powering on. If it was "mild" outside (+5 - +10) 10-15min is OK. Anyhow, this is my practice ... someone here may disagree or comment something else, so it's up to you to decide ;)
 
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_hdcp_lcd_roundup/page10.asp

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_hdcp_lcd_roundup/page13.asp

** some views about the firingsquad LCD roundup **

PixelPan numbers are weird , especially for SyncMaster 244T. I tested also PixPerAn Scrolling Text Score on NEC and it's definitely in the range 12-13. Now, how on earth 244T is faster than that (as the panel is slower), I simply don't understand. Maybe something is just fishy.

Also:

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Photographers requiring color-critical work may find the advanced DV mode to be a bit distracting and the standard display to lack sufficient contrast. The 20WMGX2 was clearly designed for gamers rather than photographers.
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As I'm personally editing photos (my personal collection) I tried the Photo mode without advanced DVM and experience was rather good and even without Advanced DVM monitor is still delivering the excellent contrast ratio. At the end, for the photographers it's more important that they have good colour accuracy and reproduction. It's not elaborated properly in the review and "distracting" is simply not enough. It was not distracting for me. Of course, we probably don't have here (on the forum) professional photographers who can justify that, but nevertheless they would probably opt for the "professional" monitor for that type of job. Also, have to mention that "default" contrast rate 700:1 is maybe the lowest among the monitor tested in the group, but from the perceptive view is excellent for me (with the stock set-up), better then any other LCD monitors I've seen in flesh.

Also, LCD monitors roundup is somewhat unfair because they are comparing the monitors in the range of $500 - $1500 (like 244T), at least in my opinion.

All in all, NEC is very good. Among the best for colour accuracy ("NEC 20WMXG2 all approach or beat the colour accuracy offered by a premium-grade CRT monitor") and contrast rates and, of course, response times are quite sufficient for the most demanding games around. All in all, review is confirming my impressions about those facts, especially colour accuracy when compared to the best CRT monitors around.

Also, our UK readers should notice that US model of the NEC is reviewed here. Essentially, NEC/Europe version is sharing the same technology as the US version, apart from HDCP and video inputs.

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Good news, monitor has turned up at work and looks beautiful, fired up Medal of Honour and there was no ghosting whatsoever and it looked fantastic!

Bad news, backlight bleed in lower left, looks quite bad actually but dont have chance to take pics or turn the room lights off here so it'll have to wait till I get home to test properly.

Also, my power button is "wonky", it's misalligned from the rest and sortt of sticking upwards. I could live with that however, but the backlight bleed im not so sure.

What is the procedure for returns/swapping on these babies in case it proves too bad to cope with?
 
Richdog said:
Good news, monitor has turned up at work and looks beautiful, fired up Medal of Honour and there was no ghosting whatsoever and it looked fantastic!

Bad news, backlight bleed in lower left, looks quite bad actually but dont have chance to take pics or turn the room lights off here so it'll have to wait till I get home to test properly.

Also, my power button is "wonky", it's misalligned from the rest and sortt of sticking upwards. I could live with that however, but the backlight bleed im not so sure.

What is the procedure for returns/swapping on these babies in case it proves too bad to cope with?
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Sorry to hear that !!! Such a long wait too.

7 days return from long distance selling reg. This will can do without reason, but you will have to foot the P&P. The other way is to call NEC for an RMA for the backligth bleeds, this will be an defect and you should get a free replacement and pick up your monitor from your place.

If you want a refund, through OCUK - cost you P&P. If you want another screen, call NEC.
 
If you put a receipt for the return postage in the package then they will refund it. I have just done this with a HDD, sent it back under the 7 day ruling and got a full refund (initial cost + initial postage + return postage).
Put a brief note in there as well asking for it as they might not see a little bit of paper dropped in the bottom of the box! :)
 
Richdog said:
Bad news, backlight bleed in lower left, looks quite bad actually but dont have chance to take pics or turn the room lights off here so it'll have to wait till I get home to test properly.
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Well ... this is rather interesting. Couple of users (and now Richard) who reported the backlight bleed for this monitor are having something in common: "lower left" position of the backlight bleed. For some of them it faded away after the monitor "burn in". It looks like that monitors are, somewhat, from the same batch.

Richdog said:
Also, my power button is "wonky", it's misalligned from the rest and sortt of sticking upwards.
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Maybe it's fixable.

Anyhow, we will wait for the update from Richard.
 
I have emailed NEC UK with a description of my problems and await their advice. This is what I sent:

Dear sirs,

I have just purchased and received a brand-new NEC LCD20WGX2 from Overclockers UK. I set it up at work and was blown away by the sharpness and colour quality (especially the blacks), and also no dead pixels!. However upon closer inspection things are not as how I would like it:

Firstly, the power button on the monitor is best described as "wonky", it sticks upwards and is not in line with the other buttons on the monitor. I could live with it but it ruins the appearence of the monitor.

The worst thing however, is what is generally known as "backlight bleed", which is present in the bottom left corner of the monitor and is very noticeable when on a black background. This is not acceptable and is very distracting while working, and no doubt will also be highly noticeable on our monthly LAN gaming session where we play shooters that are very dark in places.

I REALLY wish to keep one of these monitors and likely buy more for home/work use but ask that after paying £420 the product I receive be perfect and free fgrom flaws that detract from my overall impression and useage of the screen. My colleagues are also wowed by this montor and a couple have also expressed interest in buying one.

I therefore respectfully ask whether it would be possible to have a replacement swapped out at my place of work, a new (not refurb) monitor that is pre-tested by yourselves for zero backlight bleed (and obviously dead pixels). A non-wonky power button would also be nice! I look forward to your response and hopeful resolution, as I say the montor looks beautiful and I am anxious that I have one free from flaws.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Richard Waterhouse.
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Hopefully they will get back to me pretty soon, I have a feeling that they will help me sort this out.

As for the "burn-in" period for the monitor, how long does this usually take? :)
 
Backlight bleed in lower left here aswell (and top right but you really,really have to look for that) and its quite bad, delivered from OCUK this morning, also dead pixel free as far as I can tell, ran dead pixel buddy and couldnt see anything wrong with it at all, although all the dust that gathered when I was waiting for it to warm up looked like dead pixels :rolleyes:

Not sure if I can live with the bleed either, in normal desktop use you cant see it bat all but I just had a go of perfect dark on the 360 and it was easy to see in darkish areas.

Hopefully I will be lucky ad it will go as some others have said.

EDIT: Not sure if its worse than before or I am looking harder but I can now notice it in all 4 corners, although its still far worse in the bottom left, might aswell have bought the Belinea :rolleyes:
 
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