Netgear D7000 VDSL modem/router

mjgr33n said:
I honestly think you will love yours, yeah but there are always people who are unimpressed with stuff, a dragon could fly over there house and **** money and rainbows and they would find fault :P
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Hahahaha well put. That made me chuckle.
All I need it for is for decent range like the AC68U, The use of VPN and stable modem. I don't need VOIP or heaps of other stuff. If it can deal with what I want then I'll be pleased.
 
michty_me said:
Hahahaha well put. That made me chuckle.
All I need it for is for decent range like the AC68U, The use of VPN and stable modem. I don't need VOIP or heaps of other stuff. If it can deal with what I want then I'll be pleased.
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Hehe )))

Well so far I am impressed with the wireless range and speed not that it matters for me but my family am sure will appreciate it when they get home from France ))

I will try and compare VPN sometime on Monday.
 
So do you prefer it to your D6400? As long as you are happy with it.
The other owner on kitz said it feels rather cheap, plastic ports compared to metal on the R7000, less of a heatsink inside the unit (different chip so probably doesn't require such a big heat sink)
 
Definitely prefer it to the D6400, the chip is Broadcom's latest chip so yeah probably does not need as big a heatsink, does not seem cheap to me :P
 
I personally didn't expect it to be all bells and whistles for £160. Plenty standalone routers that break that price barrier easily for not many more features.
 
michty_me said:
I personally didn't expect it to be all bells and whistles for £160. Plenty standalone routers that break that price barrier easily for not many more features.
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Agreed but in the world of combined routers you stuck to very few choices :(

If somebody brought out a really amazing generic modem I might have got that and separate router, feels wrong having to buy an ex BT HG612 and unlock it lol :P
 
DHR said:
All singing all dancing meaning? What features are missing from the D7000
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For my needs there are no features missing from the Netgear other than the ability to bridge the WAN port to the LAN switch to provide an extra 5th LAN port.

But not everybody will have the same needs, for example I have a WAC120 access point from Netgear, it is a business product so has far more wireless features than the D6400 or D7000.

There is no reason why they could not have them other than Netgear choose to not let us configure all the the above features, I can live without those features on the router but some have need etc.

And people such as Billion and Zyxel tend to enable more of these features than Netgear.
 
DHR said:
All singing all dancing meaning? What features are missing from the D7000
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Not 100% sure yet but all the Voip options etc were mentioned. I think it will be a hefty price. It is an AC2*** router with a modem most likely broadcom so don't expect it to be cheap.

mjgr33n said:
For my needs there are no features missing from the Netgear other than the ability to bridge the WAN port to the LAN switch to provide an extra 5th LAN port.

But not everybody will have the same needs, for example I have a WAC120 access point from Netgear, it is a business product so has far more wireless features than the D6400 or D7000.

There is no reason why they could not have them other than Netgear choose to not let us configure all the the above features, I can live without those features on the router but some have need etc.

And people such as Billion and Zyxel tend to enable more of these features than Netgear.
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I think this device does fit my needs, Thats why I was pretty excited for its release. If it is stable, It provides the distance and provides a stable vpn then the device is a success in my eyes.
 
What are the thoughts on pricing at the moment? Think the preorder price will be less than standard price? Still not sure whether to bother or not...
 
DHR said:
What are the thoughts on pricing at the moment? Think the preorder price will be less than standard price? Still not sure whether to bother or not...
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It all depends if you think it will be worth it at the end of the day. Can you justify spending that much on a new device?

Prices will always come down. It just depends how long you are willing to wait.
 
Mine should also be here tomorrow. Just remember to update the firmware to the latest one as in the release notes it mentioned something about IPTV support.
I may need get time to play about with it until Thursday though but will have a look in the menus when I get a chance.
 
ricke17 said:
So I have placed an order for this router - can anyone confirm how I configure it for IPTV?
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Ricke, Have you read through the manual searching for IPTV stuff? Plenty tags on it and it appears there are drop down selection points for IPTV in the internet setup menus. Or look at page 215.
 
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My D7000 showed up today, and I'm more than happy with it.

The modem is rock solid, stats are good, wireless coverage is great.

Sure the menu system isn't up to much, and it hasn't got quite as much to customise. But after the truely shambolic Asus DSL68U, this is a good improvement (for me at least).
 
I think broadcom chips are more known for stability rather than speed.

Using an Asus, I can tell you that I got a sync of 68Mb and a fluctuating SNR of between 6 and 3.5dB. Adjusting settings to get my speed back to around 72Mb took in a fair few thousand CRC errors and around 5 million FEC's

Using the Netgear D6400
I had a solid 7.5db SNR, My max speed of 74Mb was back, 2 CRC's and approx 500,000 FEC's.

It is clear that a Broadcom chip based modem is much more happier on my line.
 
I certainly havent noticed any drop in speeds from my old sky hub and Asus Combo.

If anything ping has slightly improved (makes sense as its only one device to go through, rather than two).

After nearly 4 hours these are my stats.

adslctl info --stats
adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 38498 Kbps, Downstream rate = 102382 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 11.6 18.0
Attn(dB): 14.5 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.0 6.8

VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 -6
B: 130 97
M: 1 1
T: 0 0
R: 8 8
S: 0.0518 0.1554
L: 21468 5457
D: 16 8
I: 139 106
N: 139 106
Q: 16 8
V: 14 2
RxQueue: 60 40
TxQueue: 15 10
G.INP Framing: 18 18
G.INP lookback: 15 10
RRC bits: 24 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 58
B: 0 0
M: 2 2
T: 2 2
R: 16 16
S: 5.3333 16.0000
L: 48 16
D: 3 1
I: 32 32
N: 32 32
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 1036223584 3148164
RSCorr: 460 27
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 838723 841942
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 10063938 3367769
RSCorr: 6 2
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 1589 7
rtx_c: 71 132
rtx_uc: 0 15281

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 0 5
minEFTR: 79999 19991
errFreeBits: 16437818 67670693

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 2072598493 0
Data Cells: 48955773 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 34 34
AS: 13473

Bearer 0
INP: 48.00 48.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 0.00
OR: 0.01 0.01
AgR: 80614.82 20102.08

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 4.00
INPRein: 4.00 4.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 16.06
OR: 95.62 31.87
AgR: 95.62 31.87

Bitswap: 10543/10654 1/1

Total time = 3 hours 45 min 7 sec
FEC: 460 27
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 34 34
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 7 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 43 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 45 min 7 sec
FEC: 460 27
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 34 34
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Since Link time = 3 hours 44 min 31 sec
FEC: 460 27
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0


The Asus would have NEVER had errors this low!
 
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