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New 8800 GTS price + info

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r0cky said:
I'd rather spend £50-£100 more and get the new G92 GTS TBH.

And 128 versus 112 stream processors should certainly help out. Although I think I might have to go SLI for Crysis.
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The GTX has 128 streams and look how little better it is than the GT, the new GTS also has 256-bit memory interface doesn't it?
 
There's no official word on the release date, its all gone a bit quiet. And looking at the design of the boards, it seems likely its a GT with the missing cluster enabled. Overclocked, assuming it clocks the same as a GT, then a 15% increase in performance from the extra shaders. With the same limitations in frame buffer bandwidth.

Just some speculative comparisons for you.

8800 Ultra
Core Clock: 612 MHz
Shader Clock:1500 MHz
Memory Clock:2160 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 103.68 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 192000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 14688 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 19.6 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer: 768 MB
Memory Bus: 64x6 (384 bit)
Shader Processors:128
Texture Units:32
Raster Operators:24

8800 GT
Core Clock: 600 MHz
Shader Clock: 1500 MHz
Memory Clock: 1800 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 57.6 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 168000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 9600 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 33.6 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer:512 MB
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
Shader Processors:112
Texture Units:56
Raster Operators:16

8800 Ultra XXX
Core Clock: 675 MHz
Shader Clock:1667 MHz
Memory Clock:2300 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 110.40 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 213376 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 16200 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 26.6 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer: 768 MB
Memory Bus: 64x6 (384 bit)
Shader Processors:128
Texture Units:32
Raster Operators:24

8800 GT TOP
Core Clock: 700 MHz
Shader Clock: 1750 MHz
Memory Clock: 2000 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 64.0 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 196000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 11200 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 39.2 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer:512 MB
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
Shader Processors:112
Texture Units:56
Raster Operators:16

8800 GT OC (mine ;))
Core Clock: 800 MHz
Shader Clock: 2000 MHz
Memory Clock: 2200 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 70.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 224000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 12800 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 44.8 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer:512 MB
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
Shader Processors:112
Texture Units:56
Raster Operators:16

8800 Ultra OC (Good stock cooler)
Core Clock: 700 MHz
Shader Clock:1750 MHz
Memory Clock:2400 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 115.20 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 224000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 16800 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 44.8 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer: 768 MB
Memory Bus: 64x6 (384 bit)
Shader Processors:128
Texture Units:32
Raster Operators:24

8800 GTS 512
Core Clock: 650 MHz
Shader Clock: 1625 MHz
Memory Clock: 1940 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 62.08 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 208000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 10400 MPixels/sec
Texture Sampling Rate: 41.6 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer:512 MB
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
Shader Processors:128
Texture Units:64
Raster Operators:16

8800 GTS 512 OC (Assuming same headroom)
Core Clock: 800 MHz
Shader Clock: 2000 MHz
Memory Clock: 2200 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 70.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 256000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 12800 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 51.2 GTexels/sec
Framebuffer:512 MB
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
Shader Processors:128
Texture Units:64
Raster Operators:16

Now bear in mind what matters is shader ops and texture fill rates. Apart from the bandwidth issues at high res+AA and the frame buffer filling up with only 512Mb and render limits from the ROP count. Then the new GTS is going to be some serious Ultra competition at lower < 1920x1200 res+AA.
 
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fornowagain said:
There's no official word on the release date, its all gone a bit quiet. And looking at the design of the boards, it seems likely its a GT with the missing cluster enabled. Overclocked, assuming it clocks the same as a GT, then a 15% increase in performance from the extra shaders. With the same limitations in frame buffer bandwidth.
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You getting one?
 
I found this very interesting ..

On the subject of the 8800GT shortages, whats very interesting is the number of boards that came out in first wave. Nvidia usually has 20.000 boards in first wave, 20.000 in second and then either decreases the production - such as off-shot products with short life-spans 0 or increases.

Whatever happens, with the "flavour of the year" policy, you can expect that one partner will have enough products, while others will be happy to receive hundreds or thousands of boards, depending.

We managed to learn that for the very first launch day, Nvidia got Foxconn and Flextronics to push out a grand total of 50,000 512MB boards for first wave, followed by a smaller number for the week after, and a higher number for weeks after that.

Overall, there should be around 200-300,000 512MB boards in the mix before years' end, which does not look all that great when it comes to potential multi-million selling titles such as Hellgate: London, Crysis, Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3, all coming in the next few weeks or are already avaiable.

When it comes to 256MB part, it will mostly depend on the number of available G92_200 series. In all reality, this is a mainstream G96 part, G92_300 is the real G92 and that is a high-end part with yes, 384-bit memory controller... or 768-bit, given by the amount of memory on prototype boards.

Demand for 512MB boards will be the key, since Nvidia earns most money off that part, manufactured by itself, of course. Also, 1GB part is in the works by several partners, so it will be interesting to see what will be the final line-up between ATI and Nvidia. Nvidia has all eyes set on 512MB board, with 256MB board belonging to lower volume, and 1GB in niche part of the market. According to key game developers, 1GB parts should be the key for Yuletide.
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grrrrrr..

I want my card now !!!! :mad::mad:
 
TheDean said:
I haven't even got a graphics card - Now my bloody Pc is out of action till this comes out :mad:
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Heh same, sold my 2900 XT and currently using a 2400 Pro which is a loan from a mate. He went on 2 weeks holiday to Cuba, and comes back on the 4th so thought it would be perfect timing and I could order one of these... seemingly not :mad:
 
I really don't get why NVIDIA just don't put press releases out to say when these cards come out, it will save so much drama...

What to do now... buy a GT or wait till mid december? :S But still... is that mid december source reliable enough...?
 
As long as it is before X-Mas day I don't care personally, for the rest of you wanting it now it sure does suck but you would have thought you would have learnt your lessons from previous releases and lack of supplies...

This happens 9 times out of 10 with releases
 
Hi, is this upcoming 8800GTS the same card that firingsquad posted last week with benchies ? They called it a 8800GTS SSC but seem to remember it had 112 SP the same as the 8800GT, or is the 8800GTS SSC some "one off" hybrid with a limited run
I'm confused
Thanks
 
ten80p said:
Hi, is this upcoming 8800GTS the same card that firingsquad posted last week with benchies ? They called it a 8800GTS SSC but seem to remember it had 112 SP the same as the 8800GT, or is the 8800GTS SSC some "one off" hybrid with a limited run
I'm confused
Thanks
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It's not the same card as the 8800 GTS we are waiting for. That card is still the G80 line, although has more SP as you mentioned and therefore is faster and in some cases lines up with the G92 8800 GT, but the 8800GT mostly does beat it still.
 
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