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Yes exactly - 500-800 quid! Big bill no?
No bit its a useful indicator of how much the car costs to run, no?
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Thats a new one to me, maybe the odd engine that has warped a bit too much but your saying m52's are scrap in most of the cases? Why?
My mum drove the range rover (4.9ltr V8) about 6 miles on an empty header tank once gasket blew on motorway, admittadly it was a bit of a mess but the engine was rebuilt and ran fine again.
German crap?
Where did danny go?
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Wait. Having invoices for previous repairs is a bad thing now?
Really?
I can understand people not liking the Original poster and thinking that a £1,200 e39 is a bad purchase but that really does take the whole damn cake.
No-one said it was a bad thing to have proof of repair, just using it to highlight how costly a "cheap" BMW will (not can) be to keep on the road in a decent mechanical condition.
Thats a new one to me, maybe the odd engine that has warped a bit too much but your saying m52's are scrap in most of the cases? Why?
Because they changed the block design from the M50's complete cast iron (and thick) block, to a lighter, weaker, and thinner alloy design with the M52. There is a lot more to go wrong on the M52's alloy head (double VANOS for one), and a lot more that relies on much stricter tolerances than the M50. As has already been said, it takes minutes to completely destroy an M52 head, partly due to being unable to correctly torque the head back down (if you have managed to get one off for a skim after HGF), but mostly due to the fact that if the cooling system fails, you have minutes to stop the car and to let it begin to cool.
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I think its a case of the e39 club trying to make out that their cars are really expensive to fix to stop themselves feeling bad that they really only have a normal car like everyone else, not a supercar and they are now down to banger prices 
Do you want to thumb through my folder of receipts? Getting my air conditioning fixed cost about as much as his car did!
Yeah 'cause this big fat chunk of iron up front is so awesome :\
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My car's cost me a fortune to fix as well and its just a crummy hatchback, whats your point?
I think its a case of the e39 club trying to make out that their cars are really expensive to fix to stop themselves feeling bad that they really only have a normal car like everyone else, not a supercar and they are now down to banger prices
Damn, rumbled. It's all lies - they are effortlessly reliable and if anything goes wrong its a couple of quid to fix it.
See above paradigm, you are wrong, we are just trying to make everyone think we drive supercars. The games up!
Perhaps if I ask nicely I can get the indy to refund me the £600 I spent on the cooling system overhaul, it should only have cost £100 on my non supercar.
At least they are durable.
And in my mums range rover all I scream all day is "' hell yeah this big fat chunk of iron up front is so awesome
"Not to mention loads of other iron 6 pots..
but hey you know best.
Well, the S50 and S54 were kept with the M50's block...
But, it was BMW's testbed for the M54 in reality, so it was always likely that it was going to be a design with flaws. It wasn't a mature design in any way shape or form, whereas the M50 before it had taken a lot of its design (and research) from the M20 block prior to it.
Most people buy cheap hatchbacks because they're...well, cheap.
Sounds like you've bought a cheap hatchback that turns out to be a lemon and you're bitter that people are buying decent cars that cost the same to maintain
Because that's all that matters in any car ever right ?
Unfortunately mechanically at least more power, better handling etc came at a cost of more complexity and less durability
The M52 and M54's are brilliant engines, smoother and more powerful (Except where deliberately restricted for emissions purposes) than the older engines they replaced but at a cost.
The E39 was also the first BMW to have entirely aluminium suspension. It's very lightweight and as a result gives very good handling but the downside is that its easily damaged and even the slightest thing wrong with it causes big problems.
In most cases, a "crummy hatchback" will cost no where near as much. The cost of running my 330 was very high relative to any car I'd owned before, and it didn't really have much go wrong with it. If I get round to it I'll post it all up. Two major costs were failed air conditioning and, shock, exploding cooling system, which cost over £1000 to repair. I spent more maintaining the car that it cost to buy, and that's saying something on an £8,000 car.
I'm glad we could come to an agreement. Oh, btw, the rest of the motoring world agrees, too.
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How'd you work that one out? I'm just saying that an old car is an old car, its going to cost money to put right regardless of its manufacturer. May as well get a BMW over a Renault if you have the choice
My car's cost me a fortune to fix as well and its just a crummy hatchback, whats your point?
My last car was a 'crummy hatchback'. Until it exploded with a failed cambelt tensioner because it wasn't changed when it was supposed to be, it had cost less overall in 5 years in terms of repairs and servicing than my 530i cost me in the first 2 months I owned it!
Your average Clio failiure will be loads cheaper to fix, ditto Ford etc. Pair of wishbones, fitted, to a Mondeo? £200 tops. The PARTS are £250ish alone for the same job on the 5 Series and thats before the labour!