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[TW]Fox said:
Well sorry for trying to interfere with a strictly E39-only thread but I was just trying to make you aware, and that there are other configurations of SE out there (not necessarily E60-only) that offer a more 'in-between' combination of handling and comfort and I don't think there's any harm in pointing this out. You are right obviously though about the general market of SE vs. Sport and the differences that should be evident in them.
Like I said in my post, Granted mine has 17" wheels, 245/45 profile which makes quite a bit of difference so yes, it doesn't run on 16" wheels.
Regarding the suspension - my cousin told me that it was bought with sports suspension, but I think he was hyping the car up as he also told me the wrong alloy wheel size (18" when it was actually 17") but I got an exact list of the options from the dealer last week and the sports suspension wasn't on it. I thought there was sports suspension because there is minimal bodyroll and the car handling is just that good, but I think this is a feature of the active suspension which is a separate option and new to the E60. I'd need to drive a sport model some time soon to compare as it's been a few months now since last doing so.
Must admit that I do horse mine on a fair bit and my ratio of city/motorway isn't probably right, but I've never done a motorway run and measured the mpg for that journey alone, just keep forgetting to reset the counter
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You can't have Dynamic Drive/Active Suspension and Sports Suspension only one or the other which is why if your car has DD it won't also have M-Tech Suspension, which again will account as to why your car handles more nicely than a regular SE.
I've driven two E60's - a 2004 530d SE and a 2006 530d Sport and the differences between them were broadly similar to the differences between the E39 equivilents. The E60 SE I drove was completely standard bar leather seats and bluetooth telephone so did not have Dynamic Drive or M-Tech suspension.
Generally speaking, car for car, the E60 has a lost a tiny bit of handling polish, which is to be expected given the fact the car has grown in size and weight. It's still excellent though, and a crying shame that in SE form at least they look like a horrible mix between ackward and bland. The Sport kit goes a long way to correcting this but it still looks decidedly weird at some angles.
Shame - an E60 is the natural progression for me but they just look silly I can't see myself loving one in the same way I do the E39, hence my preference for an E92 335i instead even though in some regards its an inferior car and certainly will offer poorer value for money.
I've driven two E60's - a 2004 530d SE and a 2006 530d Sport and the differences between them were broadly similar to the differences between the E39 equivilents. The E60 SE I drove was completely standard bar leather seats and bluetooth telephone so did not have Dynamic Drive or M-Tech suspension.
Generally speaking, car for car, the E60 has a lost a tiny bit of handling polish, which is to be expected given the fact the car has grown in size and weight. It's still excellent though, and a crying shame that in SE form at least they look like a horrible mix between ackward and bland. The Sport kit goes a long way to correcting this but it still looks decidedly weird at some angles.
Shame - an E60 is the natural progression for me but they just look silly I can't see myself loving one in the same way I do the E39, hence my preference for an E92 335i instead even though in some regards its an inferior car and certainly will offer poorer value for money.
Fox, completely off topic but I don't want to start a new thread - what sort of insurance have you on your 530i? What price, who with, what cover, and what group is your car? Just curious to see how someone else of similar age fared in what ended up a bit of a struggle for me!
Dirty bugger. Under your own name? What group of car is yours?
We must be really taken to the cleaners here in NI, people couldn't believe how cheap I got insurance for and it cost me £1600
I was getting mostly no quotes at all, to £7000-odd, £3800, £2500, £1800 with directline but ended up getting it for £1600 with Quinn Direct - fully comp, under my own name, £135 excess, and 2 years NCB as a named driver in another car. Mine is group 16 btw.
We must be really taken to the cleaners here in NI, people couldn't believe how cheap I got insurance for and it cost me £1600
I was getting mostly no quotes at all, to £7000-odd, £3800, £2500, £1800 with directline but ended up getting it for £1600 with Quinn Direct - fully comp, under my own name, £135 excess, and 2 years NCB as a named driver in another car. Mine is group 16 btw.
I can certainly echo that comment, bar the Nurburgring bit[TW]Fox said:
The 323 obviously isn't as powerful but is a hoot to drive on A roads, in town and on the m/way. It was so comfortable to drive to Silverstone and back (200 mile round trip).edit: re person asking about insurance, mine was surprisingly cheap at ~£400 full comp / 24yr old / 6yr no claims.
Duke, is yours an SE or a Sport?Duke said:I can certainly echo that comment, bar the Nurburgring bit
edit: re person asking about insurance, mine was surprisingly cheap at ~£400 full comp / 24yr old / 6yr no claims.
The 5 series isnt exciting per se, not are a lot of modern cars.
Theres no real sensation of speed, you can be doing 140mph and not really feel it, they dont require any mega skill to drive, theres a lot of trickery thats takes driver involvement away imo.
Its one of the things that annoys me about my car, bags of power,great handling etc etc but theres no real feel of 'rawness' you want when you drive a car hard.
Theres no real sensation of speed, you can be doing 140mph and not really feel it, they dont require any mega skill to drive, theres a lot of trickery thats takes driver involvement away imo.
Its one of the things that annoys me about my car, bags of power,great handling etc etc but theres no real feel of 'rawness' you want when you drive a car hard.
Cant be doing with BMW's myself, they just do nothing for me.
But then I've reached the point where pretty much all Cars and Motorbikes are failing to move me.
They are becoming less imaginative and exciting as each year goes by.
My car purchases are now pretty much decided by the best i can get reliability wise for as little outlay as possible.
I'm leaning more into believing however that its not the fine handling chassis and performance offered by these motors that are swaying people into ownership, more the belief that it affords them some kind of elevation in their social status.
No, you are still a inconsequential pleb who nobody cares about, only now you have an expensive old car.
Where as the rest of us are inconsequential plebs who dont.
But then I've reached the point where pretty much all Cars and Motorbikes are failing to move me.
They are becoming less imaginative and exciting as each year goes by.
My car purchases are now pretty much decided by the best i can get reliability wise for as little outlay as possible.
I'm leaning more into believing however that its not the fine handling chassis and performance offered by these motors that are swaying people into ownership, more the belief that it affords them some kind of elevation in their social status.
No, you are still a inconsequential pleb who nobody cares about, only now you have an expensive old car.
Where as the rest of us are inconsequential plebs who dont.