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To add to housemasters post, performance car manufacturers have a long tradition of tampering with cars to get better times to advertise. Removing wing mirrors, taping up air ducts, these are all things that have been going on for over four decades.
The Porsche and BMW ARE beatable, no matter what the blinded and inept fanboi's in here think.
To add to housemasters post, performance car manufacturers have a long tradition of tampering with cars to get better times to advertise. Removing wing mirrors, taping up air ducts, these are all things that have been going on for over four decades.
The Porsche and BMW ARE beatable, no matter what the blinded and inept fanboi's in here think.
best motoring is very odd. the 997 turbo is being upchanged at 6krpm on the majority of changes, but occassionally he allows it round to much nearer 7k. i dont know much abou that engine, but id expect it will happily go to 7k, so maybe they doctor some races
The GT-R is an amazing car, in terms of performance and value for money, yes I agree! However, Its looks are horrible and it has no class.
Now some people who aren't stuck behind a computer monitor and are ACTUALLY in a position to spend that much on a car may actually realise there's more to life than pure performance. Some people will hate the Nissan purely because it's a Nissan and because it just has a 'chavy' image. The M3 is no where near as fast, sure, but it will no doubt be a much nicer car for everyday driving. It also actually looks like a classy car.
Quite simply, I would only buy the GT-R if I were stonking rich and wanted a fun weekend car. Before the keyboard warriors quick reply, may I remind you there's something called OPINION. And there's no point in all this OMG GT-R woud OWN M3 because, seriously, WHEN on British roads would such an opportunity arise?
Now some people who aren't stuck behind a computer monitor and are ACTUALLY in a position to spend that much on a car may actually realise there's more to life than pure performance. Some people will hate the Nissan purely because it's a Nissan and because it just has a 'chavy' image. The M3 is no where near as fast, sure, but it will no doubt be a much nicer car for everyday driving. It also actually looks like a classy car.
Quite simply, I would only buy the GT-R if I were stonking rich and wanted a fun weekend car. Before the keyboard warriors quick reply, may I remind you there's something called OPINION. And there's no point in all this OMG GT-R woud OWN M3 because, seriously, WHEN on British roads would such an opportunity arise?
30mpg extra urban as opposed to 22.
Well yes it would.. The roads are quite empty early in the morning. I dont think the GTR is much of a weekend car... Id say if you had the money you would use one as your daily and have something proper fun for the weekend..
That's all very subjective though. I could easily say an M3 has no class, because really, it hasn't.
Who's that a dig at?
Are you qualified to answer that?
Does it?
Oh, we are allowed one then?
Then my point about an M3 being no faster than a Corsa VXR still stands.
And an M3 has class? It has one of the worst images out there. Drug dealers, bald body builders, new money chavs etc...
With regard to the OP, what is the obsession with white cars nowadays? It looks like a fridge on 18/19" castors.
That's its appeal though. It's an absolute A to B rocket-sled and does whatever it takes to get there. It's never going to be as much fun as an Elise but it doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it is. At least it's honest.
Don't you find that a bit soulless though?
I know it's an amazing piece of machinery and I respect it for that. But it just seems to place a powerful computer between the car and driver which makes up for the lack of skill on the humans part.
I guess I just like the feeling of driving a car for myself, I can appreciate that some people just want to drive quickly.
Amazing car anyway (Just not my cup of tea
)Why are you looking at extra urban figures? The combined figures take everything into account and even then you're wrong. The (reported) MPG for the GT-R is 21mpg (combined) and the figures for the 07 M3 are 22.8mpg (from BMW website).
If, of course, you are going to try and wiggle out of admitting you're wrong and try and say you were talking about a 2001-2007 M3, they have a figure of around 24MPG.
You want to talk about supercar MPG any more or are you done with the subject?
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The average person who buys this car is going to need all the ' electronics and wizardry ' though, just like they do on any high performance car.
To those blinded by the fact its a Nissan, its hardly a Micra is it. The 350Z is also a fantastic car. Nissan has history in performance cars.
To those blinded by the fact its a Nissan, its hardly a Micra is it. The 350Z is also a fantastic car. Nissan has history in performance cars.
I think manufacturers are going in the wrong direction at the moment. They seem to be using the ‘A to B as quick as possible’ as the prime objective for their performance cars. Add in to that the fact that because of modern crash standards and the manufacturer’s lack of commitment to composites and the cars are getting heavier and heavier and so to achieve the A to B metric they have to add in computers and other such technologies to make it all possible and to deliver those all important numbers that mean most to the people who don’t buy these sorts of cars. This car is just like my car really, if somewhat quicker. It uses clever technology to overcome the shear weight and physics of the thing to make it quick cross country. These things will eat miles, will allow most drivers to go incredibly quick on the public highway yet will remove the event of driving the thing to the extent where they become almost mundane. You can get use to speed and performance very quickly, and simply pointing and shooting a car, to me at least, is not fun.
My car will destroy the GT3 in most cross country British B road blasts. It’s simply MUCH easier to drive, much more settled, has amazing traction and more so damping and looks after you in all but the most stupid mistake situations. The GT-R sounds to be much the same and then some. I haven’t driven a GT-R yet so I am basing this opinion on speaking to those who have, and reading the various UK reviews. I have realised that having an RS4 is really a waste of time as its never the type of car I just want to drive for the hell of it, or get up at 5am on a Sunday to go for a hoon. I may be wrong but I suspect once the initial appeal of the GT-R was worn off it will turn out the same. Driving normally I am with traffic and sitting on a motorway, the RS4 offers no benefit in such situations and on the occasion I do use the power to get me somewhere quickly its great, but I don’t need all that power most of the time so I am starting to think a sensible mile eater with ‘some’ power and a toy for the weekend is the ideal situation.
I used the GT3 as a daily car, I drove it 20K miles in 14 months, in all conditions and without fail I enjoyed each and every mile. I was often getting up at 5am to take it for a quiet run, often parking it on the drive, walking towards the house and then turning around to go out again, just for the hell of it. This has NEVER happened with the RS4 and I suspect the same would be true with the GT-R. Sheer competence does not a great car make if you ask me, though I fully appreciate we are all different.
My car will destroy the GT3 in most cross country British B road blasts. It’s simply MUCH easier to drive, much more settled, has amazing traction and more so damping and looks after you in all but the most stupid mistake situations. The GT-R sounds to be much the same and then some. I haven’t driven a GT-R yet so I am basing this opinion on speaking to those who have, and reading the various UK reviews. I have realised that having an RS4 is really a waste of time as its never the type of car I just want to drive for the hell of it, or get up at 5am on a Sunday to go for a hoon. I may be wrong but I suspect once the initial appeal of the GT-R was worn off it will turn out the same. Driving normally I am with traffic and sitting on a motorway, the RS4 offers no benefit in such situations and on the occasion I do use the power to get me somewhere quickly its great, but I don’t need all that power most of the time so I am starting to think a sensible mile eater with ‘some’ power and a toy for the weekend is the ideal situation.
I used the GT3 as a daily car, I drove it 20K miles in 14 months, in all conditions and without fail I enjoyed each and every mile. I was often getting up at 5am to take it for a quiet run, often parking it on the drive, walking towards the house and then turning around to go out again, just for the hell of it. This has NEVER happened with the RS4 and I suspect the same would be true with the GT-R. Sheer competence does not a great car make if you ask me, though I fully appreciate we are all different.
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