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New rider do's and dont's

Discussion in 'Biker's Cafe' started by NoNameNoNumber, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. Kreeeee

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    What's that got to do with my post you quoted? :confused:
     
  2. tom_e

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    Do we really need another discussion/argument about this? It's only been a few weeks since the last one!
     
  3. wazza300

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    Its just pot luck,you can try to minimise the risk but still no guarantee

    I've never had it happen to me thank god,its one of my worst fears,I also hate when they tailgate me,makes my blood boil
     
  4. MowyTone

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    Mine too, I can't help but think they either arn't paying enough attention or they are being ****** on purpose
     
  5. tom_e

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    It really annoys me when other bikers sit right in my blind spot.
     
  6. Kreeeee

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    Had this today, almost wiped him out.
     
  7. Craig321

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    Are you still going on about this. Jeez.

    We'll just all agree that you know everything there is to know about bike safety... ;)
     
  8. ttaskmaster

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    I didn't bring it up again...
     
  9. Stovepipes

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    That seems a bit too expensive, although parts may be more expensive for your bike.

    From what I've seen either the rear rack comes with the mounting plate and fixings or the top box does for many bikes.

    You shouldn't need to spend more than £200 on a top box. A new Givi V47 can be had for £170 and Givi are pretty much the top end of the market. You can get a Shad top box and fittings for £133 and second hand Givi for much less.

    I'm confused I'm not sure that makes sense. It's like saying a boot is useless if you can't take the boot with you or am I missing something. For me I just don't want to be carrying anything on my back should I get into an accident.
     
  10. wazza300

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    make a top box out of wood? paint it black
     
  11. Tefal

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    i find most hiking backpacks tend to sit a bit low on the ass for riding, or do you just let it res ton the pillion seat and let that take the weight and really tighten up the shoulder straps to stop it being lose as its lifted by the seat?
     
  12. Tefal

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    liner bags :p
     
  13. Tefal

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    Kappa stuff is basicaly givi under a differnt name and a fair whack cheaper too. easpecialy if you dont mind waiting for shipping from italy when they do some stock clearance on older stuff.
     
  14. Stovepipes

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    I used to think that but having a look around their monokey stuff doesn't seem that much cheaper but Givi design does look better imho.

    Shad is definitely cheaper and Coocase used to be really cheap for big top boxes but I can't seem to find them anymore.
     
  15. ttaskmaster

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    It's an old bike, so yeah some things are pricey.
    But it's a moot point, because they'd all need an indicator bracket that can bear weight, which mine cannot.

    A few bikes require one type of rack, with a different plate and then another top box, rather than a set mounting system. It was a Mix & Match solution to cover additional bikes, rather than making a set specificially for those few. Mine seems to be one of those.

    The point is that I do need something I can take with me. Backpack, detatchable topbox, something like that. Often parking is quite far from where I need to take the luggage.

    When loaded, the pack usually gets strapped to the back, so not a problem.

    Military packs, especially infantry kit, tend to sit above the waist to accomodate webbing pouches.
    Previous packs did sit quite nicely on the pillion pad, but you don't want the straps too tight as you need the shoulder movement for countersteering, especially on Cruisers and the like. Using the waist belt can help, but if you have that much weight/bulk, lash it to the tiedowns instead and enjoy the backrest!
     
  16. NoNameNoNumber

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    Went on the back of a friends ZX12R (is that right? ZXR1200?) Either way... Good lordy the speed. All on private tarmac of course. The speed that thing red lines 2nd in and then that savage power tries to spit you off again into 3rd... Oh my!

    Edit; quick Google, it's a ZX12R
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2015
  17. wazza300

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    yeah they are a brute of a bike,heavy though compared to newer stuff but still a brute
     
  18. NoNameNoNumber

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    I can't imagine physics would allow anything to be much faster... I mean yeah it's not a nippy little sports bike per se but between corners it's an absolute missile.

    It's made me realise why people recommend not to get a litre bike straight off... You can lose your license in 1st gear for christ sake!
     
  19. wazza300

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    It was a rival to the hiyabusa I think,the zzr1400 is fastest now?not sure,that or the zx10r

    Fastest Kawasaki I mean
     
  20. NoNameNoNumber

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    So why are these big heavy bikes? Did they put the busa/zx12r/zzr14 engines into smaller bikes? Are they all 'sports tourers' as the ZX12r apparently is? Surely in a dick dance to make the fastest bike they'd focus on making it as light and as basic as possible?