** NEW SAMSUNG 750D & 950D True 120Hz LED Monitors - PRE-ORDER! **

This is an odd question, but could someone who has the 24inch version please tell me what the distance is between the desk it is sitting on and the bottom of the screen?

Since there is no height adjustment I was wondering whether this distance will be the same as the way I currently have my - height adjustable - monitor set up.
 
Which new models? You mean the S23A700D? It should be released some time this year with any luck, but knowing how Samsung's releases this year have done don't hold your breath. It shouldn't be 'better' than the S23A750D but it should be cheaper, have a more conventional design and includes a DVI port. They will most likely do a more thorough refresh mid way through next year at the earliest but they won't be 'better'. Unless they have managed to improve their PLS technology so it has god-like responsiveness and excellent contrast. ;)

I thought the 700D's weren't 120hz, I wouldn't upgrade for anything that wasn't 120hz. I'm still using a CRT for FPS gaming. But I would love to switch to a good 1920*1080 LCD monitor.

As for new models, I haven't heard of any new models, just rumours in a few threads, not just from samsung but other companies as well. Like some of the other 120hz monitors have been out for over a year. Isn't time for these other companies to have a refresh?

I just want the perfect monitor :p
 
S23A750D for a fussy gamer

Ok, going to make a choice today.

I got an Asrock extreme4 gen3 Z68 motherboard, i2500k CPU, HD6950 crossfire.

My current monitor for FPS gaming is an old samsung syncmaster 997MB. Also I have a Pioneer Lx5090 for everything else.

What I would like to do is to switch to a good LCD monitor that I can use for games and work and use my LX5090 just to watch movies and TV etc.

Gaming wise I play FPs shooters the most with CS:Source been the game I spend most of my time playing.

I am not worried about accurate colour reproduction, or viewing angles.

My question:- Is the 23A750D finally the LCD monitor that is good enough to replace my CRT?
 
To melmac:

I too was using the Samsung SyncMaster 997MB and have done so for YEARS, fantastic monitor and I too doubted whether the S27A750D would beat it or any CRT for that matter and I'm happy to say that I personally think it does!

I went for the 27" model rather than 23" because I knew if I had 23" I would have wanted to go bigger haha, is such a step up from 19" it's insane.

CS:Source is so nice on this at 1080p highest gfx getting constant 120+fps (well more like 250fps haha), I'm used to smooth gameplay (always have vsync off) and no input lag because of the 997MB and when playing on this I also see NO INPUT LAG and have very VERY smooth gameplay, a definate upgrade from the CRT. I tried Source along with other games (Portal 2 looks amazing!), love playing Bad Company 2 on this, can see people from miles away due to the massive screen size where as I couldn't always before on 19" (I used to run at 1080p @ 85hz on the 997MB with resized boarders to keep aspect ratio as prefered to play games in widescreen)

Can't wait to play Battlefield 3 on this :) Now is the time to upgrade the monitor from a CRT, I was never a fan of flatscreens before because they were all 60 or 75hz and just sucked compared to CRT's but this not only has great performance for games it's also very accurate for colours much like sRGB mode on the 997MB CRT.

I'm fussy about displays being calibrated and movies/photos looking the way they should and nothing looks strange/out of place on this bad boy - quite the opposite :D Very impressed, worth the money imo.
 
This is a long thread!
To be honest I've read so much about IPS vs TN and 3D compatibility stuff I'm getting myself thoroughly confused :/

Sometimes when making a decision ignorance is bliss!!

I think I've decided on the S27A950D or the S27A750D,
I quite like the aesthetics of the 950 but have a couple of questions.
I believe I read Samsung were using different levels of the UltraClear coating on them, can anyone comment on the differences?
Is the panel uniformity or any aspect really better on the 750 w.r.t the 950, while I like the look I'd not sacrifice picture performance. There was mention of the 950 possibly stressing the panel in a weird way to get in the enclosure.

And general question 3D blu-ray playback- I accept that 3D gaming is not going to be perfect but I'd like to be reassured that 3D blu-rays are handled as well as or better than a good telly with appropriate software?
Also youtube 3D - supports Nvidia 3d vision, any word on compatability with the system these monitors use?

Any response or insights would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks,
LH
 
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To Dantheman86

Thanks a lot for that. It sounds like you are really unhappy with it :p Ah seriously it looks like a great monitor, I wonder is the 23 inch model the same. Getting the 27 inch is not an option for me, it's beyond my budget and would be too big for where I want to put it.

I won't ever be watching movies on it, maybe just to try a few 3D movies to see how good they are.

You have nearly pushed me past the point of no return :D So close to pushing the checkout button on the shopping cart :)
 
Just to get this straight, am I right in saying that this monitor (23 inch version) doesn't have a DVI dual link connection? So it wouldn't be compatible with a GTX 580?

Why on earth would a company make a monitor without such a basic feature?
 
melmac:

Just do it! You know you want to :) Only live once... The 23 inch model would be the same just 4 inches smaller...

Make sure you have DisplayPort output on your gfx card in order to get the full 120hz, HDMI doesn't have enough bandwidth to support it. DisplayPort > HDMI.
 
Ok so i've been playing around with the 3D on the 950D using the bundled TriDef Syncmaster 3D Game Launcher. I've got a really annoying problem that i was hoping somebody could help me out with.

When i run my games in 3D with vsync turned off i get nice high frame rates (in some anyway!) but as soon as i turn on vsync its capping it at 30fps! For example in TF2, i get 120+ fps without vsync. As soon as i turn on vsync i get 30fps.

I guess this wouldn't be much of a problem, just leave vsync off right? Thing is a few games when launched with the Tridef 3D driver are being capped at 30fps even when i have vsync disabled! Dirt3 is one thats doing it, without 3D mode i'm getting 80+fps, soon as i load with 3D i cant get it to go past 30fps even with resolution turned way down and settings on lowest (to make sure its not going above just cause my hardware cant handle it). I mean vsync isn't even enabled yet it sits at constant 30fps.

Its driving me crazy! Surely with a 120hz monitor in 3D vsync should cap it at 60fps?

Anyone come across this problem or have any ideas?
 
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Ok now it does it with every game. This is insane.

Nothing i play will go over 30fps now in 3D mode. Even though I get 150+ in some without 3D. And i get 1080 120hz on desktop.
 
You are correct in thinking that games should be capped at 60fps Vsynced in 3D mode - the most you will ever see on a 120Hz monitor on active shutter glasses is 60fps in each eye no matter what the framerate is being reported as. If it is capping you at 30fps then it seems to be reverting to a 60Hz operating mde under 3D which is a little strange. There are two possibilities:

1) You don't have it connected up with a DVI Dual Link. You did say you get 120Hz on the desktop but are you sure of this - do you ever see 120fps when gaming in 2D using Vsync and the lowest settings?

2) Your GPU is not very powerful. I know you don't need to be told this but it is a bit of a mismatch for such an expensive and capable monitor and given the rest of your system. Operating under the TriDef 3D mode reduces the frame rate to less than half of the original value due to the additional processing and splitting of the frames into each eye individually. I am sure you are aware of this though because you have been lowering settings massively to see if you can increase it above 30 and it seems that the 30fps is a definite cap. I'm not sure if this is what is happening but it is as if the monitor refuses to run in 120Hz under 3D on your GPU. I have a S27A750D running on a 6950 with a 60fps cap as you would expect - have you tried updating the Catalyst drivers as well?
 
You are correct in thinking that games should be capped at 60fps Vsynced in 3D mode - the most you will ever see on a 120Hz monitor on active shutter glasses is 60fps in each eye no matter what the framerate is being reported as. If it is capping you at 30fps then it seems to be reverting to a 60Hz operating mde under 3D which is a little strange. There are two possibilities:

1) You don't have it connected up with a DVI Dual Link. You did say you get 120Hz on the desktop but are you sure of this - do you ever see 120fps when gaming in 2D using Vsync and the lowest settings?

2) Your GPU is not very powerful. I know you don't need to be told this but it is a bit of a mismatch for such an expensive and capable monitor and given the rest of your system. Operating under the TriDef 3D mode reduces the frame rate to less than half of the original value due to the additional processing and splitting of the frames into each eye individually. I am sure you are aware of this though because you have been lowering settings massively to see if you can increase it above 30 and it seems that the 30fps is a definite cap. I'm not sure if this is what is happening but it is as if the monitor refuses to run in 120Hz under 3D on your GPU. I have a S27A750D running on a 6950 with a 60fps cap as you would expect - have you tried updating the Catalyst drivers as well?


1) Yes it is 100% Dual Link DVI. I checked the model number on the cable on samsungparts.com (as it is the official supplied cable with the monitor) and it checks out. Also under display settings i have 120hz refresh options in 1080p (not available if its not displayport or dual link dvi) and using fraps easily get vsync at 120fps in games such as WoW and TF2, Portal, etc. Also using fraps at the desktop i get 120fps when moving windows around rapidly.

2) Yes i agree it is a weak point of my system, however as i mentioned and like you said, i have turned the settings down to a point where im getting almost 200fps in 2D (over that in TF2 and Portal when settings turned down) yet as soon as i enable vysnc in 3D it caps at 30fps. If i was getting 60-70fps in 2D then yeah i would chalk it up to low GPU power (which is exactly what i thought at first, until i noticed it happening on less GPU intensive games).

Also, when not using vysnc in 3D in WoW i was getting 80fps. As soon as i enabled vysnc, 30fps. So it could definitely power 60fps.

The problem now is, every game i start is capped at 30fps regardless of vsync settings. I have it turned off in the game, and also forced off in my Ati control centre. Yet now when i start WoW, which at first ran at 80fps in 3D, it is capped at 30fps no matter what i do. Same with every other game.

I have uninstalled my drivers, used driver sweeper, reinstalled my drivers. Same with the Syncmaster Tridef 3D Drivers. Hasn't helped.

These problems are only in 3D when launching with Tridef software, if i loads my games as normal in 2D, vsync settings work as they should and i see locked 120fps in the games where my hardware can manage it.

Edit: Also, the monitor has an information menu on the OSD which tells you what res and hz it is running at, even when i am capped at 30fps the monitor still shows "1920x1080 @ 120hz". So it hasn't really resorted to a 60hz mode. Something is just getting messed up somewhere and thinking it has.
 
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So it hasn't really resorted to a 60hz mode. Something is just getting messed up somewhere and thinking it has.

Yeah that sounds like a right pain. :( I think the monitor must be allergic to the GPU or something as I can't see what else could be preventing proper 3D operation. I don't really know what to do about this though.
 
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