New Star Trek series - 2017

Surprised so many liked it, I thought pretty much the entire cast was ****, both in acting quality and presence, the "are you kidding" from the captain made me laugh in how woefully it was delivered.

None of the characters were good, they were all basically unprofessional and rubbish at their jobs. Captain decides to send two whole people into a Klingon ship, it's such predictable twaddle.

The thing that most peeved me off was the JJ Abrams camera work, the first scene on the planet seemed relatively normal until the utterly stupid 'signal' but 15 seconds after being on the bridge we were already on cut 38, of 642, for just that 2 minute scene. Also, for absolutely no reason, half of the shots were at an angle for absolutely no reason. I despise directors who randomly decide shooting things from an angle is 'cool', or that cutting 14 times in 2 seconds is good work somehow.

I thought the space battle was actually thoroughly disappointing, it had very little outside action, there was a flurry of them pretty much just standing opposite but then it was all one ship shots, very little movement and, meh.

Yeoh.... has always been basically a terrible actress, she's just an action star in films that never required good acting but casting her in a world where she has to speak english and it makes zero sense she wouldn't be able to speak perfect english is crazy. You've got the girl who grew up on Vulcan and the actual alien who both speak better english than the captain who lives in a future in a federation where she's spoken English her whole life.

Things that really grated were things like "retreat is not an option now", of course it is. If backing off stops a war from killing billions, of course it damn well is. There was no sense in the story, it was just poorly written throughout, poorly acted by most of the federation crew, speaking a fake language made the Klingons seem comparatively good in that sense.

Production values, great, the actual quality of shots, the bridge, the ships, all fantastic, it's about time we had a star trek series properly make a modern looking Star Trek..... but how they showed it was a joke, awful camera work, awful direction, awful jump cutting. That first bit on the bridge was so bad I instantly compared it to Taken 3 and Catwoman.

I'm two episodes in to a new Star Trek series, having been a star trek fan for life, and I'm hoping none of the crew are in any future episodes.... that isn't a good start to any show.
 
Things that really grated were things like "retreat is not an option now", of course it is. If backing off stops a war from killing billions, of course it damn well is. There was no sense in the story, it was just poorly written throughout, poorly acted by most of the federation crew, speaking a fake language made the Klingons seem comparatively good in that sense.

Cheerful as ever. Retreat wasn't an option - as the captain said, there were colonies and bases nearby.

Wasn't a fan of the intro and the lack of 4k. Enjoyed the rest.
 
Some interesting discussion on the various communities about the mining of corpses. Didn't realize at the time but this is considered a war crime. Seems a very un-Federation thing to do.
 
I'm with drunken master on this one.

Let's start.

The theme tune sucks, like really sucks. It doesn't drum up that excitement that you should expect from a Star Trek show.

The best character died straight away.

The most interesting alien species were primative insect types that need human help. All of the crew are humans with rubber masks on their heads as usual.

Michael, they called her that to annoy us, is a human raised as Vulcan. They obviously don't want her playing the "emotional woman" card all the way through the show but it makes her come across as cold and unlikeable.

The Klingons are all identical, barring the white one. At the moment it looks like an exercise in inclusiveness (the Federation) and isolationism (Kilingon Empire) there were too many references to race with Michael, grrrrr, waffling on about race and culture to her admiral.

I will continue to watch it in the hope that it is just some teething troubles. The show really needs some interesting characters because Michael, at the moment, clearly is not. The show has a big budget and some big name actors but for me it is a long way behind The Expanse which gripped me from the first episode.
 
Did anyone get the name of the robot head person? Someone on the bridge had either a weird robot helmet or was actually a robot. Can't seem to find it out.
 
Some interesting discussion on the various communities about the mining of corpses. Didn't realize at the time but this is considered a war crime. Seems a very un-Federation thing to do.

I think the shiny and well established Federation in TNG onwards wouldn't have done that. However the federation that's just starting off (hundred years or so?), and was tricked and ambushed by what is known to be a completely hostile species, got their asses mostly handed to them and then they killed an admiral after they just agreed to a ceasefire while also demonstrating their technological superiority with cloaking devices and just hearing that the Klingons are looking forwards to going to go to war and killing all the 'dirty' species...... I think we can forgive them the mining of 1 corpse ;)
 
What I'm saying is - Sonequa is clearly no Picard, so let's hope they make that story very short and release the lady back to her previous contracts, because she's got the screen presence of someone still walking dead.

[edit: I've just checked, she won't be "Picard", that's good stuff, show saved]
someone from the JJverse is running the show I think.

Also she isn't going to be the captain. She will be the first officer eventually.
 
Just finished the first two episodes.

First thoughts without much musing - the Klingons were great. What a refresh of a tired alien race! I enjoyed pretty much all of it and can't wait to watch next week.

I hope it eventually goes into an episodic format. I like episodes where the main plot points get resolved, even if there is a longer continuing arc.

As for 'Michael'... hmm, not sure how she can come back from mutiny. She's going to be a captain I guess but that was so... un-captain-esque.

Perhaps I was half watching but I was little confused how they managed to stay so 'hidden' after the bulk of the battle had taken place.

My other minor gripes... get rid of the awful TOS sound effect (@Raymond Lin the weird bleeping sound that went off every now and again is deffo not from the times of Picard).... and the intro sucked!

Overall much better than I thought it was going to be - bring on an episodic format :)
She isn't going to be Captain. Episodes 1 and 2 were a prequel really. Episode 3 is where discovery really starts and where we meet the new crew and the ship itself.

What's wrong with the ToS sounds? It's set in that era. It's nothing to do with Picard??
 
The dude with the ridiculous metal headband with blinking blue LEDs

The robot head that I think had the gloves with tubes or wires all over them.

The annoying green eyed flat nosed alien thing that constantly moaned about everything.

So far the whole crew was utterly unlikeable. Just like the zombies in Walking Dead, the White Walkers in GoT, I will be rooting for the Klingons throughout this series.
 
kinda intrigued.
story so far is alright.
acting kinda questionable.
Klingon makeup dodgy.
not convinced if they're being SJW or not
It only took 2 episodes for the black person to go to prison!
 
She isn't going to be Captain. Episodes 1 and 2 were a prequel really. Episode 3 is where discovery really starts and where we meet the new crew and the ship itself.

What's wrong with the ToS sounds? It's set in that era. It's nothing to do with Picard??
I like the original sounds. The beep boop beep of the communicators, the sounds of the phasers and torpedoes.
 
Watched episode 1 and quite liked it. Yes it's a different direction to the Trek we all know and love of old, but I think this is in the right direction and it's clear the first few episodes are going to be the ones where they "find their feet".

I liked the banter between the bridge crew, and also the characters are decent too. I get the impression that 5 episodes in things will have settled in and we'll be seeing a more developed series.

Klingon makeup aside, the CGI and sounds were all very good. It's a darn sight better than other re-visions like Caprica.
 
Trek always takes at least a season to get the characters established and find its footing. Look at the first seasons of TNG / DS9 / Voyager / Enterpirse they are all varying levels of bad.

It's not the show I wanted. But I'll give it a fair shot.
 
Well I'm not a huge fan of the opening credits and music, but at least it's better than Enterprise had.
IMDB lists Michelle Yeoh as being in 15 episoed. Maybe that was to pervent spoilers, but if it's flashbacks to her mentoring or something each and every episode, it might get a bit tiring. It also says Doug Jones is in all the episodes. Was really not a fan of the alien science officer he played, so that's going to take some work to make them a sympathetic, likeable character.
 
I will be rooting for the Klingons throughout this series.

Ah, but how?

I mean, the Klingon lead character is dead already - killed by the mutinous bone-head who wanted him taken alive to avoid martyring him no less :rolleyes: So having spent two episodes with this guy as the Big Bad™ of the series...the writers now have to start over. And what does it say about them being able to write compelling alien characters if they're just going to kill them off and move on to the next one?

This is one of my major problems with the opening two-parter. Essentially these first two episodes were a prequel to the series itself, and their story (such as it is) could have been told in flashbacks throughout the first season.
 
Well I'm not a huge fan of the opening credits and music, but at least it's better than Enterprise had.
IMDB lists Michelle Yeoh as being in 15 episoed. Maybe that was to pervent spoilers, but if it's flashbacks to her mentoring or something each and every episode, it might get a bit tiring. It also says Doug Jones is in all the episodes. Was really not a fan of the alien science officer he played, so that's going to take some work to make them a sympathetic, likeable character.
Indeed Jones is in the other episodes as per the new trailer.
 
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