New Star Trek series - 2017

MooMoo444 said:
That's how Roddenberry wanted trek to be originally, actually.
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It was groundbreaking back then. Now it's a cliche. "Look there's the token <insert character> that's only there to fill the quota". Might as well make one of the characters a lesbian werewolf and the other a single parent glittery vampire.

In Trek, people of all races and types were treated equally, and it wasn't a sore thumb that just stuck out as obvious tokenism. A character was black, or gay, or whatever, and that wasn't flaunted to show how cool the show was, it was just what they were written as. To do anything else makes the character a one dimensional cliche who is always "the gay one" or "the black one" before the actual character's main role.
 
Hopefully set in the 25th century and agree would rather have 6 episodes then 26 per season where 60-70% were just gap fillers or about data's cat.

Loved DS9s dark take on everything it really pushed the klingons and introduced the shady side of humans even with genetic enhancement and section 31 and not to forget about the dominon war.
 
R3X said:
Hopefully set in the 25th century and agree would rather have 6 episodes then 26 per season where 60-70% were just gap fillers or about data's cat.

Loved DS9s dark take on everything it really pushed the klingons and introduced the shady side of humans even with genetic enhancement and section 31 and not to forget about the dominon war.
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Although I grew up with TNG (I met marina sirtis she was mortified that I was 3 when filming started, I made her feel old) DS9 was my fave.

Things weren't as simple as federation good, Romolans a bad.

We had religious conflicts, terrorism, shady practices from the federation, drug addiction.

It was awesome, back to the real reason sci-fi exists, to explore the human condition in abstract terms.
 
I can't seem to finish DS9. Twice now I've watched in marathon sessions from the beginning and got as far as when Worf joins but then I seem to lose interest and go on to something else. Must try harder! :D
 
Steampunk said:
In Trek, people of all races and types were treated equally, and it wasn't a sore thumb that just stuck out as obvious tokenism. A character was black, or gay, or whatever, and that wasn't flaunted to show how cool the show was, it was just what they were written as. To do anything else makes the character a one dimensional cliche who is always "the gay one" or "the black one" before the actual character's main role.
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That's a very good point. I've never thought as Uhura as "the black one" or Sulu as "the Asian one". It's always been communications officer and helmsman.
 
I hate change and Ppl like trek for the way it already is. So its my hope they get back some of TNG and ds9 writers and some of the crew. Come up with a ship and crew and general situational story and era using TNG standards or further, Not like enterprise. And yes to 26 episodes per season more the better if setting and crew are nice. I hate short seasons like we have in UK. Its just over too soon then nowt to watch for rest of the year sometimes.
 
SkeeterUK said:
I hate change and Ppl like trek for the way it already is. So its my hope they get back some of TNG and ds9 writers and some of the crew. Come up with a ship and crew and general situational story and era using TNG standards or further, Not like enterprise. And yes to 26 episodes per season more the better if setting and crew are nice. I hate short seasons like we have in UK. Its just over too soon then nowt to watch for rest of the year sometimes.
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The problem is that people weren't watching it. Fans were seeing the same things over and over. In my life I don't know how many times I've seen each episode of every Trek. To bring back the same old, same old just isn't going to work. I guess that's why they've gone with a subscription channel as an experiment, rather than the full syndication the previous ones had.

I'm in favour of doing something different, but related. Look at Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. Both were different characters and settings, but made with the same formula. Different ingredients, but the same recipe. However, when they did Stargate Universe, the makers went in quite a different direction, and I liked that. It was much darker, grown-up, and felt different. I think Trek has to do something like that to refresh the format, even though it's set in the same universe.

I hope they give it a bit of a chance to get going though. Nowadays they kill off shows that don't do instantly well, and it doesn't give them a chance to get into their stride. I don't think any of the previous Treks would have made it though one season if they had to survive today's mercenary network rules.
 
Re-watching TNG recently and some of it is still brilliant TV. Picard has to be one of the best characters on TV ever. Writing and acting were top notch.
The latter shows after ds9 suffered because they didn't evolve, there was very rarely consequences for a character outside of the episode - everything would just reset and as others have mentioned it job samey and recycled. Including the music!

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Slight worry about the new series is if it mimics the new movies (which are entertaining) then they'd be all style with zip all substance.
 
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