Giggs gets so much grief from us because he warrants it. A player of his experience and skill should not be constantly giving the ball away. I can understand players losing pace as they get older, even a little hair, but passing the ball should always be there. Keeping possession gives you more chance of winning a game, not always a guarantee but if you've got the ball for longer it means your opponents don't have as much time attacking you. Scholes looks out of sorts with both Carrick and Hargreaves, if push came to shove, I'd drop Carrick to revert to a 4-4-2. but that's not going to happen until Ronaldo and Rooney are back.