Yes I remember doing my first tower , it was a bit stressful and done exactly that .Building a pc is non trivial imo. You are best watching a bunch of YouTube vids. Then plan. Examine parts carefully. Dry run. Allow plenty of time.
I found it quite stressful.
I’m not so sure at ten he will have the patience , but it would definitely be interesting for us both ,When I built a PC for my son for his birthday I got him to build it while I supervised him.
Got him involved and hopefully get him to learn about computers at the same time.
Thanks I like the look of this , looks good , is ram listed optimal , or is there better options ?You could save a fair chunk of money or simply end up with a better system if you built it yourself, while ensuring quality components.
For example:
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £109.99
- 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £99.95
- 1 x Asrock B650M PG Riptide (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-18Y-AK) = £159.98
- 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Ki (SKU: MY-0AT-TG) = £98.00
- 1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02721) = £36.94
- 1 x Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case (SKU: CAS-AER-00607) = £55.00
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £329.99
- 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 TI Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01497) = £799.99
- 1 x NVIDIA - Black Myth: Wukong Standard Edition Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-02698) = £0.00
Total: £1,689.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)
The 7800X3D is a superior gaming CPU to the 7700X, faster RAM, excellent power supply (OCUK tend to put poor quality Kolink PSU's in their systems), larger SSD.
You can pick up Windows keys for a tenner, or alternatively run without a licence with minor functionality loss.
A higher end GPU is also viable with the savings, a 7900XTX or 4080S etc.
That said, there are new processors releasing in a few weeks so waiting might be best.
Thanks I like the look of this , looks good , is ram listed optimal , or is there better options ?
Thanks for the post
Thanks Ben , yes he does play cod , and Fortnite and also other games with high graphic / memory processing like ragdoll type sims , but envisage him loving to slightly more pc based fps , so want to future proof . From the limited reading I have done , the intel has not sounded as appealing as the amd chips and also been leaning more towards the Radeon over the nvidia …If your lad plays call of duty then take a look at an amd card, cod tends to prefer them over nvidia as the game was designed around consoles and amd build the ps5 chips.
7800x3d and a 7900xtx eat cod alive. Discounting ray tracing which is not applicable in FPS games really the 7900xtx is faster in most titles v a 4080 never mind a 4070
Thanks Ben , yes he does play cod , and Fortnite and also other games with high graphic / memory processing like ragdoll type sims , but envisage him loving to slightly more pc based fps , so want to future proof . From the limited reading I have done , the intel has not sounded as appealing as the amd chips and also been leaning more towards the Radeon over the nvidia …
Generally our budget will be around max 2 k for this ,
May I ask what people thoughts are on the 32” curved Samsung odyssey g6 monitor , is this something considered decent .
32 inches is generally considered quite large for competitive fps gaming. Most pro players use 24-28 inch monitors. They sit relatively close and don’t have to move their eyes as much so therefore reaction times are ever so slightly better as targets will be in their field of view the whole time. They’re not scanning a bigger area looking for someone to shoot at
Thanks gray much appreciated , I will have at look at these .If going for an AMD GPU either of these would fit into your budget:
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1AR-PC) = £659.99
- 1 x Asrock Radeon RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-013-AK) = £869.99
Total: £1,529.98 (includes delivery: £0.00)
Both would work very well, obviously the 7900XTX is faster, I'd recommend looking at some reviews and decide on whether the XTX is worth another £200 to you or not.
Ok understood , currently he plays only for fun so , as he was using a ps5 , we got him something bigger although I don’t the the ps5 can utilise monitors full capability , as he does play other games but on reflection , after using it myself , I did not it is a lot to cover with your eyes , and felt perhaps we should have went flat particularly if we were going to dual monitor at some point . But hey ho you live and learn .It’s a nice monitor. A 7900xtx will get the full 240fps on high settings at 1440p on cod
I have a 7800x3d and 7900xtx myself and get 220-260 fps with all settings near enough maxed out.
32 inches is generally considered quite large for competitive fps gaming. Most pro players use 24-28 inch monitors. They sit relatively close and don’t have to move their eyes as much so therefore reaction times are ever so slightly better as targets will be in their field of view the whole time. They’re not scanning a bigger area looking for someone to shoot at
Ok understood , currently he plays only for fun so , as he was using a ps5 , we got him something bigger although I don’t the the ps5 can utilise monitors full capability , as he does play other games but on reflection , after using it myself , I did not it is a lot to cover with your eyes , and felt perhaps we should have went flat particularly if we were going to dual monitor at some point . But hey ho you live and learn .
No not really at that stage with it yet , though he is better than me at it as my reflexes are getting on a bit , more of a quake guyIf you’ve already bought the monitor then there is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all it’s a nice screen. You are spot on with your assumption that the ps5 is not utilising the screen. Not even close
I jumped from a ps5 back to PC last year with the 7900xtx and the jump was very noticeable.
I just assumed part of the reason for the upgrade was you were getting nagged so he could get better at the games through better performance hence the mention of pro players. Gaming should always be fun
No not really at that stage with it yet , though he is better than me at it as my reflexes are getting on a bit , more of a quake guy
But yes we have the monitor already so that is staying for now , but in the future that may change ,
Just really trying overall to future proof the whole package so it last a couple of years and is not overwhelmed to quickly
Hi gray, I have been doing a bit of review watching of the proposed new zen 5 ryzens 9900, and from what little I have the ability to discern , do you think ( as you seem to know about these things) it is worth for the ipc proposed increase of 16% just for gaming load ?Thanks gray much appreciated , I will have at look at these .
Bump **Hi gray, I have been doing a bit of review watching of the proposed new zen 5 ryzens 9900, and from what little I have the ability to discern , do you think ( as you seem to know about these things) it is worth for the ipc proposed increase of 16% just for gaming load ?
Happy to spend the money , just considering if actually having seen some purported benchmarks , if the lad will benefit from this v the additional expense they will have won them , v the reduction (hopefully) to some of the above listed cpus.
As if not really the money could be better spent on other elements for the tower ?
Thank you in advance
Regarding the above , why would you go with the micro tower ?Thanks I like the look of this , looks good , is ram listed optimal , or is there better options ?
Thanks for the post
Bump **
Any update on the new cpus as of yet, from what I have seen not much worth spending the extra money, we have waited for release , but only really seen the gaming nexus reviews on the 9900 9950 , not really that brilliant .
We are planning ton ordering everything this weekend .
There seem to be some teething problems with the new CPUs where they are not performing as expected on Windows, but for now, it looks like for a gamer: not worth it.Bump **
Any update on the new cpus as of yet, from what I have seen not much worth spending the extra money, we have waited for release , but only really seen the gaming nexus reviews on the 9900 9950 , not really that brilliant .
We are planning ton ordering everything this weekend .