Newcastle takeover???

I stand corrected I thought it was owned by Sheikh Mansour who's person wealth is over 20 billion. Not counting what the family is worth which is a couple of trillions dollars probably.
 
More stories coming out right now about new evidence being given to the PL today regarding the Saudi's and beoutQ.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal..._medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1589221607

Sorry @woppy101 I'm not trying to annoy you but there's no football to watch and I'm bored. Just a thought, maybe you don't want the PL season to finish because you believe inevitable the legal fall out will weaken the PL's willingness for another legal battle if they block the takeover ;)
 
Interesting, but not exactly surprising.

Putting the fact they are terrible people to one side, they're also heavily involved in sport piracy (which nobody can reasonably doubt, let's be honest), which the PL have to be strongly against, or it will damage themselves and their brand.
 
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It was reported the other week that back in February the PL even wrote to the US Government to keep Saudi Arabia on a piracy watchdog list.
 
Not 100% but that's the same information that was floating around two weeks ago and now being recycled.

I also believe beoutQ stoped broadcasting or something early Feb.
 
Bigpig said:
Not 100% but that's the same information that was floating around two weeks ago and now being recycled.

I also believe beoutQ stoped broadcasting or something early Feb.
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Craig Hope, the Newcastle based journo for the Mail has backed up the Guardian story saying it's new evidence.

As for beoutQ, broadcasters have managed to shut down illegal satellite services by linking subscriptions to set-top boxes however ,iinm, these beoutQ boxes are now being used to run an illegal IPTV service.
 
BaZ87 said:
More stories coming out right now about new evidence being given to the PL today regarding the Saudi's and beoutQ.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal..._medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1589221607

Sorry @woppy101 I'm not trying to annoy you but there's no football to watch and I'm bored. Just a thought, maybe you don't want the PL season to finish because you believe inevitable the legal fall out will weaken the PL's willingness for another legal battle if they block the takeover ;)
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Not worried TBH, not think all of these papers would have been sent already, This’ll just be a storm in a tea-cup. Last minute desperation by Qatar and BeIn and old hairy hands. Apparently they have found a so-called link between BeoutQ and Arabsat But Arabsat is not solely a Saudi company, it is owned by 21 different Arab stares (importantly including Qatar). UAE also have part ownership of Arabsat. Sheikh Mansour is the Deputy Prime Minister of UAE. If there is a link between BeoutQ and Arabsat it’s hard to see how the PL can fail PIF/MBS but allow Man City to continue as they are.
TBH the one that had me a little worried was the Sheffield United links, which seem to have gone away, do you really think the PL wants this dragging through the Court as the U.K. government is fine to deal with an ally but the PL stop it.
 
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Yes but I checked out both articles and they only mentioned the letters that were sent at the start of the year which came to light the other week but they still expect the deal to go through after a small delay.

The PL themselves sent some letters so would already know the situation and I'm pretty sure the delay is due to them trying to get football restarted.

I think the last from the PL was a reply to the wife of that reporter. Saying their owners test goes well over what's required by law.

There will be new stories from the same reporter's tomorrow claiming sources close to the deal expect good news in the upcoming days.
 
woppy101 said:
Not worried TBH, not think all of these papers would have been sent already, This’ll just be a storm in a tea-cup. Last minute desperation by Qatar and BeIn and old hairy hands. Apparently they have found a so-called link between BeoutQ and Arabsat But Arabsat is not solely a Saudi company, it is owned by 21 different Arab stares (importantly including Qatar). UAE also have part ownership of Arabsat. Sheikh Mansour is the Deputy Prime Minister of UAE. If there is a link between BeoutQ and Arabsat it’s hard to see how the PL can fail PIF/MBS but allow Man City to continue as they are.
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I'm not sure Richard Keys has anything to do with this :D As for links to the UAE and other Arab states, the key will be whether they have any control over the running of the company - the UAE (which isn't just Abu Dhabi) owns less than 5%. The Saudi's are comfortably the biggest shareholder with the company based in Riyadh - they have a clear influence on the running of the company.

I'm sure the takeover will go ahead but it's not been as smooth as you'd hoped or suggested it would be. The fact that copies of letters that the PL has received from beIN and letters the PL sent to the US Government have been leaked would suggest that somebody within the PL is very much against the deal going through.
 
BaZ87 said:
I'm not sure Richard Keys has anything to do with this :D As for links to the UAE and other Arab states, the key will be whether they have any control over the running of the company - the UAE (which isn't just Abu Dhabi) owns less than 5%. The Saudi's are comfortably the biggest shareholder with the company based in Riyadh - they have a clear influence on the running of the company.

I'm sure the takeover will go ahead but it's not been as smooth as you'd hoped or suggested it would be. The fact that copies of letters that the PL has received from beIN and letters the PL sent to the US Government have been leaked would suggest that somebody within the PL is very much against the deal going through.
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Yep Definitely not as smooth as hoped, what people are leaving out is the letters the premier league sent to the US government last year were common knowledge and weren’t leaked, BeoutQ was closed down last year and Saudi was praised by the US government on how it handled the situation. the leaks about the so-called piracy and the so-called new evidence have came from BeIn Sports as they stand to be ruined when TV rights come up for bidding and Saudi Arabia take them away. I’m sure you can guess who the person works for who broke(leaked) this new story “Ben Jacobs” yes that’s right BeIn sports
 
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Yep Definitely not as smooth as hoped, what people are leaving out is the letters the premier league sent to the US government last year were common knowledge and weren’t leaked, BeoutQ was closed down last year and Saudi was praised by the US government on how it handled the situation. the leaks about the so-called piracy and the so-called new evidence have came from BeIn Sports as they stand to be ruined when TV rights come up for bidding and Saudi Arabia take them away. I’m sure you can guess who the person works for who broke(leaked) this new story “Ben Jacobs” yes that’s right BeIn sports
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I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi Arabia or any TV station or group linked to the Saudi Sovereign Fund would be barred from bidding due to conflict of interest.
 
The facts the way I and most others look at it

1: The Premier League would only be able to get involved and block the deal if there has been a linked proven in court that Saudi Arabia were involved in the piracy. This is not the case, this is just a document given to them, likely from BeIN/Qatar who have their political motives to attempt to block the takeover.

2: Even if the above applied, the Premier League have already indicated that they view PIF as a separate entity from the Saudi government. It would be difficult for the Premier League to make the link between the two hold up.

3: The channel has already been taken down. Saudi Arabia will be able to say that they have taken steps to combat piracy. Even if a link was made, it would be simple for them to make the case that their involvement was because of a political blockade of coverage from Qatar and that they want to work with the Premier League in future to prevent them from missing out on Premier League broadcasts. Again this is assuming what was mentioned in reasons 1 and 2 even applied.

This is nothing more than the political gesturing we have seen over the last month from Qatar in relation to this takeover bid. It is also just another non-story that the media have had go with because theirs nothing else to talk about in football right.
 
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I love how you think Richard Keys is some kind of sport Mafia boss, what the hell :D
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Have you seen how much gorilla fists has been going on about the Newcastle Takeover over the last few weeks? playing the moral card, the bloke that groomed his daughters best friend while his wife was unwell and was sacked by sky for being a sexist pig
 
Point 1 is wrong for a start. The PL rules allow for them to block the deal even if there's not been a conviction.
woppy101 said:
Yep Definitely not as smooth as hoped, what people are leaving out is the letters the premier league sent to the US government last year were common knowledge and weren’t leaked, BeoutQ was closed down last year and Saudi was praised by the US government on how it handled the situation. the leaks about the so-called piracy and the so-called new evidence have came from BeIn Sports as they stand to be ruined when TV rights come up for bidding and Saudi Arabia take them away. I’m sure you can guess who the person works for who broke(leaked) this new story “Ben Jacobs” yes that’s right BeIn sports
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The PL letter was sent in February, not last year and the Saudi's were kept on the piracy list. The story broke in the Guardian as far as I'm aware.
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The PL has already stated it views the PIF as a separate company based in Saudi Arabia.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spo...premier-league-chief-richard-masters-18133744
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PIF being a company based in Saudi Arabia doesn't mean it's not a state owned company - it is and makes no secret of that. Any state run Saudi company will find it difficult to bid for TV rights if a state owned Saudi company owns a PL club. As I said earlier in the thread, Sky's attempts to buy Utd were blocked due to a conflict of interests. It's not impossible given the complex nature of different companies but I wouldn't bet on it. Like the takeover, the League may decide it's easier and safer to stick with beIN rather than risk legal action by accepting a Saudi offer, if one ever comes of course.
 
This is all quite interesting TBH. I'm not as bullish but I still think it will go through.

MissChief said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi Arabia or any TV station or group linked to the Saudi Sovereign Fund would be barred from bidding due to conflict of interest.
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I don't think you can ban TV stations from Saudi that's not directly linked to the PIF.

There's already a large interested growing in the premier League now from Saudi and the takeover isn't complete.

It's the reason why BeIN is going nuts as they stand to lose out if rival bids start to come in for their overseas rights.

Most PL clubs stand to profit if BEIN is outbidded or even end up paying more than they are now.

If Saudi TV stations do bid it's nothing but a win win for the PL. More money and it could help end privacy.
 
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