Consoles will be 30fps so 4K 30 is not too hard to hit. got remember consoles use low/medium presets not ultra like us
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Consoles will be 30fps so 4K 30 is not too hard to hit. got remember consoles use low/medium presets not ultra like us
Dude they are NOT using 1070 or 1080 period.....its AMD APU - in both - again Nvidia burned their bridges with both Sony and MS on consoles and Nvidia has never been in the running with Nintendo as they've come back several times they are extremely happy with what AMD has given them.
Stop with the nonsense. Second all three consoles will be aligning with x86 cpus - Nvidia can not make x86 socket.......AMD can; only other is Intel. Intel isn't interested in the consoles and they can't actually write graphic drivers to save their lives.......
Now lets stop the with they can use 1070; because they're not.....
Second 1080 *which hasn't been released* they tend to 500+ .......for best in power; that would be Polaris mobile........ or they can do they are doing and use APU.....
the point is people are saying they cant do 4k. im just illustrating they can if they want to. burning bridges means nothing in money.
the point is people are saying they cant do 4k. im just illustrating they can if they want to. burning bridges means nothing in money.
If you've burned your bridges in business - it takes a hell of a lot of money to rebuild them - if you've listened both MS and Sony - NVidia hasn't or won't do it.
With the MS situation - both MS and NVidia are to blame. but with Sony - NVidia burned them bad with dumping bump gate chips on Sony with the PS3 -they were known to use the faulty bumps - basically NVidia said take it or leave it. Sony didn't have a choice; but after the massive issues - doubt you'll ever see NVidia in Sony or MS machines again.
Second mobile version chips are never as powerful as desktop counterparts. People keep forgetting about low level ops - as Naughty has shown there is still power left to tap in the PS4 - now we have PS4.5 coming.....
but you are right on showing different way 4k be hit
and we'll leave it there hehe
Still dont know why you are discussing consoles in a PC Graphics card forum but the Xbox One S with UHD player was announced yesterday $299 lowest model.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/13/11911184/microsoft-xbox-one-s-announced-price-specs-e3-2016
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/13/11911184/microsoft-xbox-one-s-announced-price-specs-e3-2016
Isnt that now edge? Unless you mean Scorpio
They're all the same for me hahahaha! But you're correct!
mostly arguing what graphics will they have, polaris/hawaii or m-gpu for the new upgrades.
I disagree with the optimization part on recent consoles. If you look at GPU that is equal to them like the 7850/7870 they perform the same/better on comparable image quality and framerate.
The optimization means medium/high settings, no aa/af, possible lower res (900p), 30fps with dips etc etc
On previous consoles it was different since they used weird architectures.
Xbox one gpu
GPU Clock Speed: 853 MHz(originally 800 MHz)
Shader Cores: 768
Peak Throughput: 1.31
The new xbox is going to have 6TF throughput which is about 4.5x more powerful. I can honestly see it doing upscaled 4k with optimisations.
Well, yes and no.
For the first couple years, with 3rd party multiplatform games, yes, 7870-class GPU could basically match or beat what the PS4 versions were doing in nearly all cases. Though I'd argue that they would not have matched what first party developers were achieving. Meaning that the console optimization is not a myth, but 3rd party devs weren't exactly taking full advantage of the potential there. I also think that as PC gaming has become more mainstream, devs were putting more effort into the PC versions than they might have 5 years prior.
Now all that said, things are changing. Devs are getting better with the consoles, API's and tools are improving, and we're starting to see more multiplatform games on consoles that I seriously doubt a 7870 could match in terms of graphics and performance. This trend will likely continue. And then we have the newer 1st party games where I'm absolutely certain a 7870 would explode trying to run at equivalent settings and performance.
So PSVR coming in at the point it is - 3 years after launch of the PS4 - I'd say that many of the multiplatform VR titles for it *will* benefit from 'the console advantage' in terms of better optimization, at least to some degree.
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i would love to see a 7850 run God of war showed yesterday at sony conference, or even uncharted 4, console and PC graphics doesnt scale the same way, PC have too much overhead and crappy APIs, console can have the game running 40-60% faster than pc on equivalent graphics.
Very good news, it means that PS4K will have to have 7-8TF.
Rumors have xbox Scorpio as more powerful than ps4.5 and the new PlayStation is due at end of this year? Where xbox isnt due till next year. I doubt there is much Sony can change now to make it more powerful if true.
Ok so will these new 'cheap' consoles really even manage to do 1080p at 60fps on low settings let alone match a 3 year old mid range gpu?
Genuinely interested as even if they have upped their game then they are still constrained by the lowest common denominator I.e the original console version which they have to code for.
Genuinely interested as even if they have upped their game then they are still constrained by the lowest common denominator I.e the original console version which they have to code for.
If you're talking PS4 Neo and Xbox Scorpio, then why is this a question? They will smash a 2013 mid-range GPU.
If you're talking about the new Xbox One S, then it's more of a repackaging revision than a power upgrade. I imagine any potential PS4 Slim(if there will even be one, it's already quite small) will be the same.
Developers will be constrained by the lowest common denominator still, yes. At least with the PS4 Neo. Scorpio might be a different story as MS have said they wont demand that developers release games for both base Xbox and Scorpio.
new slide from AMD about polaris
could there be any link between the new sony/microsoft consoles and polaris ? the comment sure implies that!
looks like i was wrong about mgpu on interposer afterall, but it would make even less sense to me for sony and microsoft to upgrade their console to a completely new architecture in the middle of the console cycle.
could there be any link between the new sony/microsoft consoles and polaris ? the comment sure implies that!
looks like i was wrong about mgpu on interposer afterall, but it would make even less sense to me for sony and microsoft to upgrade their console to a completely new architecture in the middle of the console cycle.
I want to believe you (I really do) and perhaps I'm referring to say a gtx 770 which can do when overclocked 1080p ultra 60fps. I genuinely don't think a neo will match that. Happy to be proved wrong!
Well we cant since they're exclusive, but I bet the 7850 could do it. Its 1080p/30fps medium/high with no aa or fxaa, its not exactly hard we're all just used to absurd max settings. Try console equivalent settings on your GPU, probably get 200+ fps.
Alien Isolation is a fantastic example, maxed out on a 7850 it gets 80fps, on the ps4 its 30 with dips to 20. I'm guessing its because of the junk cpu, many multiplats are like that.
The Division another one I just randomly checked, maxed out 1080p on a 370 which is basically a 7850 it gets 30fps solid. Pretty sure PS4 doesnt run it at max settings.
32 fps for the Witcher maxed out no hairworks at 1080p, thats better than the ps4.
you can pretty much look at any benchmark and the 7850 will be better than the ps4, even if only slightly it throws the 50%+ performance out the window because then they should be getting 7970/280x performance.