NHS=Negligent Health Service

I've noticed recently that there is a shortage of radiologists leading to a backlog of tests needed to be read.

At least a few months ago I had a high contrast ct scan done. So far everyone is waiting for it to be looked at and put on the system.

Last week I went in for 3 days for tests, one was an xray. So far nothing as appeared on the system.

I've been using the nhs a lot in my life and never noticed such a delay in diagnosing scans before.

I've also noticed when the doctors make an appointment for a test it goes into the system with a 10 year expiry date. They don't seem to have much faith either.

Wheres the radiologists at???
 
BowdonUK said:
I've noticed recently that there is a shortage of radiologists leading to a backlog of tests needed to be read.

At least a few months ago I had a high contrast ct scan done. So far everyone is waiting for it to be looked at and put on the system.

Last week I went in for 3 days for tests, one was an xray. So far nothing as appeared on the system.

I've been using the nhs a lot in my life and never noticed such a delay in diagnosing scans before.

I've also noticed when the doctors make an appointment for a test it goes into the system with a 10 year expiry date. They don't seem to have much faith either.

Wheres the radiologists at???
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It's not just radiologists but they are especially hard hit nationwide. Everywhere is running with gaps currently. Lots of work is being handed off to very dubiously qualified Physicians Associates/Anaesthetic Associates to fill gaps.
 
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BowdonUK said:
I've noticed recently that there is a shortage of radiologists leading to a backlog of tests needed to be read.

At least a few months ago I had a high contrast ct scan done. So far everyone is waiting for it to be looked at and put on the system.

Last week I went in for 3 days for tests, one was an xray. So far nothing as appeared on the system.

I've been using the nhs a lot in my life and never noticed such a delay in diagnosing scans before.

I've also noticed when the doctors make an appointment for a test it goes into the system with a 10 year expiry date. They don't seem to have much faith either.

Wheres the radiologists at???
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A little fact about Radiologists, unless it's A&E they wait until the weekend when a Radiologist comes in and goes through 100s of Images.
I was involved in a case where a whistleblower said it was impossible for a colleague to have read & reported so many Images over a weekend and they were suspended.
After checks the Radiologist had done their job correctly and apologies were given.
 
BowdonUK said:
I've noticed recently that there is a shortage of radiologists leading to a backlog of tests needed to be read.

At least a few months ago I had a high contrast ct scan done. So far everyone is waiting for it to be looked at and put on the system.

Last week I went in for 3 days for tests, one was an xray. So far nothing as appeared on the system.

I've been using the nhs a lot in my life and never noticed such a delay in diagnosing scans before.

I've also noticed when the doctors make an appointment for a test it goes into the system with a 10 year expiry date. They don't seem to have much faith either.

Wheres the radiologists at???
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Too many people in the UK, and more coming daily. Not many seem to be radiologists, radiographers, doctors or surgeons. The NHS is doing its best to address the situation though strikes and the intransigence of the staff they have though. Notice how many texts are sent out reminding you of the plethora of jabs awaiting you? They're an easy money earner for GP's surgeries and trusts. Try getting to see an actual GP in many places still!

GP's surgeries and hospital trusts are now mainly purely businesses, run with the eye on profits, the whole mess needs privatising pronto.
 
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Well Mum was due to come out today but had an hypo because the nurse gave her too much insulin.

For some reason nurses don't take a blood sugar reading every time they inject, like all diabetics usually do. They only check it when they make a mistake. This isn't the first time it's happened during a hospital stay.

I wonder how many people die because of a regular sized dose but when the person hasn't eaten can kill them.

I don't know if this is related but about 3 years ago I was in hospital with pneumonia. There was an old guy across from me. He seemed lively that visitors evening ie chatting with his family. Then I noticed about 10pm the night nurses were checking his blood sugar, which was very low, and giving him yoghurt to bring it back up. The problem was he became agitated, which I believe can be a low blood sugar symptom, so he kept taking his oxygen mask off. The nurses kept coming in to try and put it back on. But he was being aggressive so slowed down the amount of times they came in. I decided to go to sleep as it was midnight by then. I woke up sometime during the night with all the curtains pulled around every bed trying to resuscitate him. He died.

I noticed the next day all the nurses were telling people he'd been moved to another ward. I'm sure it'll be written as his own fault for taking the oxygen mask off.

It makes me wonder for the sake of regularly testing someone's blood sugar before injection how many lives could be saved.
 
Minstadave said:
It's not just radiologists but they are especially hard hit nationwide. Everywhere is running with gaps currently. Lots of work is being handed off to very dubiously qualified Physicians Associates/Anaesthetic Associates to fill gaps.
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Most trusts are suffering both a staff shortage and a hiring freeze right now, if that sounds really dumb to you then congratulations you're too intelligent to be a Tory MP xD
 
Been referred to have a small procedure done under general anaesthetic. Got a letter through saying my admission with a date.

No mention of anything general anaesthetic related (nil by mouth, not allowed to drive, drink alcohol and sign legal documents etc).

Then the enclosed leaflet is about pre op assessment! Then says I should have two dates in my letter. Just the one!

I need something in writing so that I get full pay for a few days for recovery. At the moment it looks like a day case with no mention of GA.

I had a text on Thursday which I had a link to a questionnaire about meditation, health, have I had surgery before etc.

If I don’t get anything in the post, on the phone to the department.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Too many people in the UK, and more coming daily. Not many seem to be radiologists, radiographers, doctors or surgeons.
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Aslyum seekers? Probably not. But those coming over with Visas.. yes quite a lot are working in the NHS. That's partly why the numbers are so high.

After all, we've lost potentially thousands of EU Dcotors and specialist NHS workers who would have come to the UK to work but didn't, because of Brexit.

Chris Wilson said:
The NHS is doing its best to address the situation though strikes and the intransigence of the staff they have though.
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Ah yes, lets blame the workers who are having to work in ridiculous circumstances and many of them on silly wages. Lets not blame the governmet that's been in place for 13 years and seen waiting lists balloon from weeks to years. Where are all those new hospitals we were promised?
Decimate local healthcare, mental health and then wonder why we have silly numbers of bed blockers. Have hospitals that are literally falling down (I was in one earlier this year, it's a disgrace).

The NHS worked before the Tories came into power.

Chris Wilson said:
GP's surgeries and hospital trusts are now mainly purely businesses, run with the eye on profits, the whole mess needs privatising pronto.
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"eye on costs" not profits. They are penny pinching everywhere.
Ah yes.. privatise that's the answer. The answer many Tories were probably going for all along. I can tell you, from someone who lived in an EU country for nearly a decade that did have privatised healthcare.. yes some things are better.. but some things are the same if not worse.

Got luck getting a UK privatised healthcare system working.. we can't even build a bloody railway line.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Too many people in the UK, and more coming daily. Not many seem to be radiologists, radiographers, doctors or surgeons. The NHS is doing its best to address the situation though strikes and the intransigence of the staff they have though. Notice how many texts are sent out reminding you of the plethora of jabs awaiting you? They're an easy money earner for GP's surgeries and trusts. Try getting to see an actual GP in many places still!

GP's surgeries and hospital trusts are now mainly purely businesses, run with the eye on profits, the whole mess needs privatising pronto.
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Given 2/3rds of NHS Trusts are running a deficit I don't think they're doing all that well making those juicy profits. In my trust every focus is on cutting costs at every turn, often nonsensically.

Widespread privatising will only increase cost to the individual and leave many without healthcare at all.



Investment provides results. Some of the rise in the latest Tory term is COVID related, much of it is simply the NHS isn't funded to cope with winter and IA on top of that has had a minor impact.

IA is an England only issue, Scotland resolved it quickly and like adults.
 
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Minstadave said:
Given 2/3rds of NHS Trusts are running a deficit
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It's probably worth pointing out to those that don't realise that the term deficit actually means something completely different to it's normal economic context when discussing the NHS.

When somebody says the local cheese shop is running a £5k a year deficit that means that it's operating costs are higher than it's actual sales and so it's having to loan money to stay in business, sad times for cheese, hopefully profits pick up next year.

When a politician says an NHS trust is running a deficit, what that actually means is that they underfunded that trust by allocating it less money than it required to function correctly, but that trust still ran up bills that exceeded their underfunding target, and so additional funds had to be given to it to pay those bills (which could be due to a variety of sources, hell sometimes it's money required to pay off negligence lawsuits caused by underfunding, no joke). It's not a "real" deficit, politicians just use that word because it goes over better with the public and makes it seem like the trust is at fault not the government.
 
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ubersonic said:
It's probably worth pointing out to those that don't realise that the term deficit actually means something completely different to it's normal economic context when discussing the NHS.

When somebody says the local cheese shop is running a £5k a year deficit that means that it's operating costs are higher than it's actual sales and so it's having to loan money to stay in business, sad times for cheese, hopefully profits pick up next year.

When a politician says an NHS trust is running a deficit, what that actually means is that they underfunded that trust by allocating it less money than it required to function correctly, but that trust still ran up bills that exceeded their underfunding target, and so additional funds had to be given to it to pay those bills (which could be due to a variety of sources, hell sometimes it's money required to pay off negligence lawsuits caused by underfunding, no joke). It's not a "real" deficit, politicians just use that word because it goes over better with the public and makes it seem like the trust is at fault not the government.
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Nicely put.
 
More patients than doctors/nurses/surgeons, we all accept that.

Cause: Shortage of qualified professionals due to Brexit or population been allowed to increase too much through both legal and illegal immigration.

Take your pick depending on what side of the fence you are on.
 
ristac said:
More patients than doctors/nurses/surgeons, we all accept that.

Cause: Shortage of qualified professionals due to Brexit or population been allowed to increase too much through both legal and illegal immigration.

Take your pick depending on what side of the fence you are on.
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Lack of pay for a qualified profession too. Brexit got nothing to do with it when professionals are emigrating away.
 
adam cool dude said:
Lack of pay for a qualified profession too. Brexit got nothing to do with it when professionals are emigrating away.
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Lack of pay or somewhere else simply paying more. There would be lots of people who would love to be on the wages the NHS staff are on. Again it’s a pointless argument as it’s all down to the side of the fence you are on.

You say nothing to do with Brexit, an earlier poster blamed it.
 
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Many factors are the issue, including poor management, over staffing in admin posts, workers getting paid full sick pay (then the system gets abused as it does in other industries that pay it), inappropriate spending of funds. My wife has worked in the NHS for over 29 years, these and the other points made, are just some of the things that she has said over the years.
 
ristac said:
More patients than doctors/nurses/surgeons, we all accept that.

Cause: Shortage of qualified professionals due to Brexit or population been allowed to increase too much through both legal and illegal immigration.

Take your pick depending on what side of the fence you are on.
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I think that house builders/planners/etc also need to take some of the blame - they've been tasked with increasing the housing stocks; but with all the new 1000s of houses, do we ever see a new surgery or hospital go in as well? They just about manage a few road tweaks to avoid congestion pinch points - I guess there's no money in putting in buildings for public services, so they just lean on the existing infrastructure.

Though with all the cut backs, even if we had a glistening set of surgeries and hospitals - we might struggle to actually fill them with staff; catch 22 I guess
 
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