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Does making a "profit" include the sunk costs of R+D in developing the console? Or are you just talking about the cost to manufacture coming down over time?

I love Nintendo. But I think the time has come to focus on what they do best, and that's making games. The Wii U has sold 10 million consoles worldwide. That's half as many as the Gamecube which itself was considered a flop. :( I appreciate Nintendo have been massive innovators, but you have to consider the question - did Nintendo 'get lucky' with the original Wii?
 
daz said:
Does making a "profit" include the sunk costs of R+D in developing the console? Or are you just talking about the cost to manufacture coming down over time?

I love Nintendo. But I think the time has come to focus on what they do best, and that's making games. The Wii U has sold 10 million consoles worldwide. That's half as many as the Gamecube which itself was considered a flop. :( I appreciate Nintendo have been massive innovators, but you have to consider the question - did Nintendo 'get lucky' with the original Wii?
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They did alright with the Nes and Snes too mind!

If they can bring out the same old awesomeness, and continue to innovate to the success of Splatoon, then I'm all over it.
 
Bossk128 said:
They did alright with the Nes and Snes too mind!
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Of course, but that was 25 years ago now. Don't get me wrong - this is coming from someone that had a NES, SNES, N64 (at launch - I paid £70 for Turok!!), and even an imported Gamecube. I just think the times have moved on and that "owning" the platform whilst incredibly valuable if you get it right, the cost of getting it wrong is very very high. Look at the irrelevence of Blackberry these days to see what can happen.

Fact is, Nintendo can't compete with the likes of Apple, Google, Amazon and Microsoft when it comes to muscle of getting devices in to people's hands or in front of people's faces.

What they can compete at is making games, and that's what they should focus on.
 
They need to impress with numbers these days, so it needs to be more powerful than current generation and have big name release games running better than its competitors...
Any chance of Zen being used or is this wishful thinking :p
 
That pad looks awful. No way can it be real!

This could be a new handheld, rather than the NX pad. But what an awful shape. It doesn't seem to make much sense.
 
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Of course it's fake. Look at the shape! I like the idea though. Make it look comfortable and stick some face buttons on and job done.
 
I love most Nintendo games and have owned all their consoles in the past and I have a Wii U high I think is fantastic but I won't be buying another Nintendo console and come to that any console as I'm just sticking to PC gaming in future. I would love to see Nintendo just make games and quit making consoles, I think we'd all be better off.
 
Tauren said:
Nintendo games on xbox and playstation would be amazing.
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Maybe from a visual point of view but do you not think that Nintendo game design is influenced by their hardware design somewhat. Would they genuinely make better games if they lost all control of hardware design?

Do Nintendo games need to have PS4 or better levels of graphical performance to be more fun, or are they fun because of the way they look, how they are designed and how they utilise the hardware design?

Every generation (even the Wii if I remember rightly) there is a contingent of people stating that Nintendo 'need to go software only'. If that ever happened I personally would see that as a sad day.
 
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