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johnny6 said:
Maybe from a visual point of view but do you not think that Nintendo game design is influenced by their hardware design somewhat. Would they genuinely make better games if they lost all control of hardware design?

Do Nintendo games need to have PS4 or better levels of graphical performance to be more fun, or are they fun because of the way they look, how they are designed and how they utilise the hardware design?

Every generation (even the Wii if I remember rightly) there is a contingent of people stating that Nintendo 'need to go software only'. If that ever happened I personally would see that as a sad day.
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There would be nothing stopping them creating custom controllers so what would be the problem?

There's nothing special about the design of Nintendo's consoles, it's the controllers.
 
Broken Hope said:
There would be nothing stopping them creating custom controllers so what would be the problem?

There's nothing special about the design of Nintendo's consoles, it's the controllers.
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To have any chance of success the add on hardware you are suggesting would need to be official from Sony and Microsoft. Can you genuinely see either of these companies handing over official hardware design to Nintendo?

The only way I see it working would be a genuine joint venture between Nintendo and Sony or Nintendo and Microsoft. And we all know what happened the last time Nintendo and Sony worked together.
 
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Lodjik said:
If they get it right and produce hardware that 3rd parties want to develop for and that produces titles at least as technically good as the PS4 then they could be very successful.

Nintendo still has the best Exclusives IMO.
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I think the way this is being pitched is certainly to get the 3rd party support once more. I mean essentially if it becomes the option of portable versions of home console software (vita was pitched kind of like this) except it's as powerful/similar capability to Xbox One/PS4 then ports become easy.

I'm glad it's been announced to be a fake but I do buy into the logic of this potentially coming in two parts, handheld version only with HDMI connection/Steaming capability similar to Wii U's console to gamepad tech and then a standalone console addition to boost power/capability in the home.

Although with it being Nintendo who actually knows what they are up to :p
 
That could make sense. It'll take a lot more than comparable hardware to get 3rd party multi-platform developers fully back in bed with Nintendo. It's been in a questionable position with regards to them for twenty years! It isn't a "build it and they will come" scenario IMO; Nintendo will have to do something in addition to simply creating a technically competitive console to undo four generations of obscurity and win back their trust.
 
This is what worries me about the NX, nintendo will try to do something wierd with the controller just to make it different or they'll make it a rectangular shape and uncomfortable. They need to make a pad like the PS4 or Xbone which people actually like, the Wii U controller was the worst controller I've ever used which may be coincidence that its also the worst console I've ever owned.
 
Jase said:
This is what worries me about the NX, nintendo will try to do something wierd with the controller just to make it different or they'll make it a rectangular shape and uncomfortable. They need to make a pad like the PS4 or Xbone which people actually like, the Wii U controller was the worst controller I've ever used which may be coincidence that its also the worst console I've ever owned.
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You mustn't have owned many consoles then or used many controllers :D
 
I don't know wether I like the Wii U or like what they've managed to get out of a seemingly underpowered console but still there's no denying it's home to some of the best of this generations games.

Problem is Nintendo had a really brief but oddly successful period with the Wii and I wonder if they'll spend all their time trying to replicate it instead of seeing it for what it was, a novelty/fad. I also wonder if there's room for even a proper Nintendo console (normal joypad) in the market anymore as I think in reality Sony and Microsoft as closed the door. Sure Nintendo fans will say there's absolutely a need for a Nintendo console but I think the rest of the world would argue there isn't and just give us Mario etc. after all it's the games that make Nintendo great.
 
For all those who need more confirmation that the controller is fake: This video

Yeah... some guy admitted to 3D printing a controller based upon the patents by Nintendo and creating something out of it. Props to him for actually having the ingenuity to pull it off.

Lesson to be learnt is: don't believe any old rumour you read on the internet and stop being so hungry for NX news. Keep your pants on and be patient, or just post some harmless speculation instead.

@pumaz I got to agree that you are right. But as consoles go... Nintendo actually does it well because they have big exclusives. Sure the other 2 beat them on 3rd party, but more folks are wising up to PC for multiplat titles. The WiiU has barely any games on it, yet the few that are on there are great. The 3DS gimmick is more of a failure in my eyes, since while the 3D is nice, nobody uses it since it lowers framerate and it doesn't add much to the games. The gamepad, whilst seeming gimmicky, I've actually been using a lot more recently. Mainly due to off-screen play (while I the main screen is used for something else), but Nintendo could do that with the NX and the next handheld if they do something similar to crossplay on the PS4 and PSVita.

While I will admit the Gamecube wasn't so popular, I think they need to go back to something of that style. A great (normal) controller, powerful hardware (GC was powerful for the time) and just good games early (GC had Smash Bros released in launch window). Most console gamers admittedly use consoles for the Fifas and CoDs these days, but more powerful hardware to allow for better versions (at least try and get more 1080p60 games) combined with good online support will bring those folks over. And they'd have the options of the various 1st/2nd party exclusives too, though that is up to Nintendo. They seem adamant about keeping some of their franchises on handheld (e.g. Pokemon & Monster Hunter). And most of all... kill off that archaic region-lock, especially if you're going to release games exclusively in regions (XC is only in EU eShop and not NA).
 
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Nothing used to get me more excited than a Nintendo console launch. The WiiU has left me cold - they have to work for my money this time round.
 
Warbie said:
Nothing used to get me more excited than a Nintendo console launch. The WiiU has left me cold - they have to work for my money this time round.
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Same, I won't be buying at launch unless they have decent third party support this time. It's about time they sorted their online model out as well, it's a shame because I still have my Wii U and some of the first party games are excellent but the lack of third part support is a big issue for me. They also need something that can compete spec wise.
 
I dont really care about third party support, i buy nintendo stuff for Nintendo stuff, if this fails then they will have to be just a software developer (no bad thing).

So i really hope they bring something new and fresh and different from PS4 and Xbox one.
 
For me they have failed with first party too this time round. There's been the odd exception, but compared to the colossal no.s of genre defining titles they used to churn out, it's been a very poor show of late.
 
Warbie said:
For me they have failed with first party too this time round. There's been the odd exception, but compared to the colossal no.s of genre defining titles they used to churn out, it's been a very poor show of late.
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Id kind of agree - there was a bit of a golden period for about 6 months where it was looking good but recently they have fallen off on the releases.
 
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