No Man's Sky - Procedural space game

This got to be the best one yet :), i love the BS counter :D


Love it!

I missed all the BS on social media, videos, review sites etc and went in knowing it wouldn't be as advertised, it was just never going to happen.

It passed the time for a few hours but that video really sums it up :D
 
Update number 2 guys! Its a long paragraph but worth a read!

Dear Mr Boyce


Your complaint – Valve Corporation in association with Hello Games Ltd

Further to the recent email from my colleague, we have carried out an initial assessment of your complaint and have decided that further investigation is needed. This means that we will now contact Valve and Hello Games for their comments on the concerns raised about the presentation of game features on the Steam store page.

We received a number of complaints covering a variety of online content and decided that, because it covers all the issues raised in these complaints and is still actively in use, we would focus our investigation on the Steam webpage for the game. Under the CAP Code, both Steam and Hello Games are responsible for the advertising content on that page. The outcomes of ASA investigations are cross-applicable to other marketing making the same claims, so any decision reached in relation to the Steam page would apply to other advertising for No Man’s Sky where the same (or materially similar) claims appear. Therefore, although we will not be including other material in this investigation, concerns about other ads will still be covered.

The complaints we received touched on a range of material, some of which (such as interviews with third parties, or press releases) fell outside of the ASA’s remit. We have carefully considered the content on the Steam store page and assessed it against the concerns raised. Having done this, we will be asking the advertisers to provide evidence relating to the implementation of the following features as depicted or described on the page:

Videos
User interface design
Ship flying behaviour (in formation; with a ‘wingman’; flying close to the ground)
Behaviour of animals (in herds; destroying scenery; in water; reacting to surroundings)
Large-scale space combat
Structures and buildings as pictured
Flowing water
Speed of galaxy warp/loading time
Aiming systems

Screenshots
Size of creatures (9)
Behaviour of ships and sentinels (4, 5 and 8)
Structures and buildings as pictured (3)

Page in general
Quality of graphics
References to:
lack of loading screens
trade convoys between stars
factions vying over territory

We acknowledge that some complainants referred to additional claims or imagery; these have not been included in the investigation because they did not appear on the Steam store page. Nonetheless, such concerns were all reviewed fully and we will ensure the advertisers are made aware of any points relating to other marketing material under their control (such as the Hello Games YouTube channel and website).

We will now commence our investigation and discuss the above with Valve and Hello Games. Once we have completed our work, we will be in touch to notify you of the outcome.
 
To be fair most if not all of that is in the game, it just isn't implemented as well as we saw in the E3 videos.

Flowing water for example, I have seen it twice. Not done well, but it is there.
 
To be fair most if not all of that is in the game, it just isn't implemented as well as we saw in the E3 videos.

Flowing water for example, I have seen it twice. Not done well, but it is there.

Some of the stuff is in the game but nowhere near to the level that is being advertised on the store page.

The issue is, and the reason why ASA are continuing to look into them is E3 footage is being used to advertise the game, along with other stuff that has seemingly never made it to release.
 
To be fair most if not all of that is in the game, it just isn't implemented as well as we saw in the E3 videos.

Flowing water for example, I have seen it twice. Not done well, but it is there.

That is the other thing with the game - I went to about 10-20 different planets and they were largely barren visually - then ran into a storm planet that has lush vegetation and much more alive feel (though still a long way short of what is advertised) and one time I took off and as I entered space encountered a massive, detailed ship with a moderately sizeable battle going on around it - while mostly space has been empty with the odd placeholder freighter type ship warping in exactly where I am :S

I've not really had anything to do with it but we had some promotional material at work I'm guessing from Sony for the game that showed stuff I've never seen including a full scale human like explorer and visuals that simply aren't in the game - not just posed and touched up in a 3D modelling package or something but entirely another level of detail and theme to anything in the game.
 
No Man's Sky Being Investigated Over Misleading Ads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXVh2Q6NElo

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Let this be a lesson to all game developers/publishers, don't ever try false advertisement again.

They deserve everything coming their way and then some! :D
 
Let this be a lesson to all game developers/publishers, don't ever try false advertisement again.

They deserve everything coming their way and then some! :D

This. I'm not angry at the quality of the game, it is what it is, but it's not right to sell a product you can't deliver. This wasn't early access, I didn't buy into a promise of a completed game 'eventually'.
 
I hardly ever wish ill upon people but I have to say they deserve all the **** they're getting and I hope they'll pay for it.

A falsely advertised indie game sold for an AAA price with abysmal performance issues and severely outdated graphics is a bit too much to swallow.
 
I'm dubious that the result of this will be much more than them having to remove the misleading screenshots etc... not the industry-changing landmark event people seem to be hoping for, although it would be amazing if they were made an example of...

It's gamers who (still) really need to change their attitudes and practices - stop pre-ordering stuff based on hype!
 
I'm pretty sure the "gameplay" videos we see from pre-release were pre-renders, because the detail is WAY beyond what we actual saw in the game. The guys who made A:CM ended up getting sued for doing the same thing.

Games developers should look at Frontier and their work on Elite to how games should be made. They don't over-sell it, they do exactly what they say they are going to do (and usually by the date they set too). Everything is tested for weeks on a public test server first and 99% of the time works perfectly on day 1. If something doesn't work out or people don't like it, they actually listen and try something else. No BS stories, misleading information, or attempts to silence people (like Hello games who disabled their forums on Steam when they realized people were not happy).
 
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I'm dubious that the result of this will be much more than them having to remove the misleading screenshots etc... not the industry-changing landmark event people seem to be hoping for, although it would be amazing if they were made an example of...

It's gamers who (still) really need to change their attitudes and practices - stop pre-ordering stuff based on hype!

*star citizen* *cough*
 
*star citizen* *cough*

I must say I was duped with NMS and seen my pre-order as supporting something that was truly ground breaking. I still think it is in a way, but definitely doesn't justify the £40 I paid.

As for star citizen, I bought the cheapest package when it was on sale so i'll be out about a tenner if that goes pear shaped.
 
I must say I was duped with NMS and seen my pre-order as supporting something that was truly ground breaking. I still think it is in a way, but definitely doesn't justify the £40 I paid.

As for star citizen, I bought the cheapest package when it was on sale so i'll be out about a tenner if that goes pear shaped.

I don't really know much about NMS, so I'm only slowly catching up with the amount of mis-information there seems to have been in videos and interviews/presentations.

Going to be interesting to see what they say about that? ie: Why show things in what's supposedly gameplay footage showing things that are not in the game? And why say in interviews/presentations you can do things you cannot?
 
Lots of features were promised in pre-release marketing material, that didn't get into the finished product. Things like planets orbiting and rotating like a realistic solar system, rings around planets, portals, some biome types, multiplayer. Also, it turns out that once you "complete" the game, there's no pay-off. It just puts you back on the edge of some other galaxy.

Thats a lot of stuff missed out
 
As far as I can see it although Star Citizen appears to suffer from other flaws and perhaps is being over-hyped by many, at least they're putting out builds and letting backers actually play the game as it develops...

This makes it hard or impossible for the developers to lie about existing features without getting called-out on it right away... Seems completely different to NMS (I don't have any particular allegiance to either; I like the idea of a space exploration etc. game but I haven't backed SC and didn't jump aboard the NMS hype-train either)
 
As far as I can see it although Star Citizen appears to suffer from other flaws and perhaps is being over-hyped by many, at least they're putting out builds and letting backers actually play the game as it develops...

This makes it hard or impossible for the developers to lie about existing features without getting called-out on it right away... Seems completely different to NMS (I don't have any particular allegiance to either; I like the idea of a space exploration etc. game but I haven't backed SC and didn't jump aboard the NMS hype-train either)

At least NMS is released... Yet to be seen with SC :)
 
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