No Stubble at work.

The company policy is vague so i would love to keep my stubble if possible.

The company policy will be "do as you're told". They're kept vague deliberately so they can be applied to anything.

I once grew my hair because company policy was to forbid men to have hair longer than collar length and I was reckless enough to force the issue. I could have been sacked - it was (and presumably still is) legal to sack a man on that basis. Company policy changed, but I doubt if my actions had anything to do with that. We're just peasants and it takes a lot of peasants doing something before anyone with any authority has to care.

Good luck if you're reckless enough to think that the people at a decision-making level in the company you work for give a damn about what you want to do with your facial hair.
 
What's the deal on beards for medical grounds then? Razor bumps can lead to some pretty nasty infections and scarring.
 
I'm curious where they draw the line, I shave once every roughly 3 days as more frequent than that often results in spots, etc. which sometimes means its starting to become a bit of a shadow on some days.
 
Am i right in saying this infringes my freedom of expression and that i can tell my managers to stuff it?:confused:

Lol, freedom of expression. You're not there to make a statement about yourself, you're there because Morrisons are paying you, peanuts as I'm sure it is. They're doing you a favour more than you're doing them because they can always find someone else, but you can't always find another job as easily.
They couldn't give a monkeys about your freedom of expression.

The current generation seem to think they have a right to dress and have an appearance that simply wouldn't have been accepted at one time in certain workplaces.

It probably has less to do with hygiene and much more to do with Morrisons wanting their customers to see staff that don't look like they've just gotten out of bed. Looking like an alpha male might be cool, but many people are still old fashioned where clean cut is still king.

They're competing with the even bigger supermarkets and are growing fast. I quite often go into Morrisons and have been very impressed by how polite staff have been, taking the time to help me, smiling, and clean shaven. And wearing a tie. It left me with a much better impression than I've ever had at Tesco or Sainsburys. If you went into work with flipflops or a mohican and you were asked to change those things, would you complain about those too? Perhaps show them the human rights act? I know these supermarkets pay **** money for shelf stackers and the like, but there's too few jobs and too many people looking for work, so they can call the shots.

Only you can decide if you want to tell them to get stuffed, that all depends on how much you need the money.
 
tell them you have got a skin condition and that its non of their buisness

this has got new store nazi manager written all over it. powers gone straight to their head but they dont actually know the real rules behind any of it

a mate got a payout from tesco years back after his manager repeatedly discriminated against his long hair (think mid 90s ginola bouffant) he kept getting told to get a haircut and that he didn't look 'proper' .
 
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What's the deal on beards for medical grounds then? Razor bumps can lead to some pretty nasty infections and scarring.

There is nothing wrong with having a beard.

Usually where companies have a grooming standard, it requires you to either be clean shaved everyday, or have a full beard, which you would need to begin growing in your time off, so that it gets somewhat full. Of course if hairnets are required, you would need a beard net.

The perception of stubble may be different to what it was in the past, but its still a rough look and depending on the length, can just look like somebody hasn't bothered to shave. That's the reason why it won't be allowed, because it just makes a worker look unkempt in an environment that has traditional standards.
 
You can now see why employers are employing Eastern Europeans for these types of job roles - hassle free, they do as they are told and don't come whining to forums that my employer is asking me to do xyz
 
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I am pretty sure the reason for being clean cut is because you are working in a food environment. It's pretty much standard practice in the food industry because you do not want hair getting in the food. If someone is walking around with a beard he is most likely a manager ignoring the rules and not wearing a snood. You will never see anyone working in a delicatessen with a beard or hair that is not covered up. If you do you should report it straight away.

Would you want to eat food with someone else's hair in it?
 
OP- The company Dress code states, Black or Dark Trousers, Clean, ironed shirt or chefs top if on fresh food department. Black or dark brown SAFETY boots/shoes, Clean shaven, no visible piercings (if visible they must be covered with blue plaster), no jewelry except weddings band.

So your manager is not being a douche, he is following company procedure and so should you.

Its all in the company Hand book and is clearly written and not vague at any point.

Edit: You can grow a beard but it has to be on your own time, not the companys' time. eg whilst you're on holiday or have a more than a few days off at on go. If you still have issues please talk to your SPM.
 
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Im allowed a beard at work. I can understand wearing a beard net type thing if you're working with food though. Bit over the top mind...

If you're wearing a beard net/mask thing - the women should be made to do the same with their hair :)
 
I am pretty sure the reason for being clean cut is because you are working in a food environment. It's pretty much standard practice in the food industry because you do not want hair getting in the food. If someone is walking around with a beard he is most likely a manager ignoring the rules and not wearing a snood. You will never see anyone working in a delicatessen with a beard or hair that is not covered up. If you do you should report it straight away.

Would you want to eat food with someone else's hair in it?

Why do people keep coming out with this nonsense. It has nothing to do with hygiene. You have hair everywhere, your allowed a full beard. It is in no way a huge one issue. It is purly a looks issue.
He's also a shelf stacker, no hair nets required.
 
The women at my place do wear hair nets if they have hair that touches shoulders if they work on fresh food counters. I do believe that's the policy for hair nets. Not had to wear one so can't be 100%.
 
Why do people keep coming out with this nonsense. It has nothing to do with hygiene. You have hair everywhere, your allowed a full beard. It is in no way a huge one issue. It is purly a looks issue.
He's also a shelf stacker, no hair nets required.

Its never been mentioned at my place about being a hygiene issue having stubble/beard, just long hair which I can understand. So like you, I can't see why people spit out that rubbish..
 
I also work at Morrisons as a manager and yes it is policy, yes it is about portraying a good company image and yes I shave daily. Its barely a hardship is it? So why moan about it? Are you really that worried about loosing those 5 minutes on the days you work?

Say that you get really bad skin irritation from shaving, worked for someone at my store then he only had to shave once every three days.
 
What you could do - is start your own shop and write your own dress code policy so you can then do what you want. Or you could stay and follow the rule you signed up to. At the end of the day its their ball so they set the rules

You can express your freedom of expression when your not representing the company - like on a public forum after work :)
 
I also work at Morrisons as a manager and yes it is policy, yes it is about portraying a good company image and yes I shave daily. Its barely a hardship is it? So why moan about it? Are you really that worried about loosing those 5 minutes on the days you work?

Say that you get really bad skin irritation from shaving, worked for someone at my store then he only had to shave once every three days.

So why no designer stubble? I don't mean urban styles neither i mean male model styles. It's still a BS policy, just how pretentious do Morrisons wanna get?

Also why allow broom handle moustaches? They look disgusting. My ffpp manager has a great big dirty moustache, it's revolting.
 
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