Number plates for cyclists...

MadMossy said:
They are limited to 15.5mph electrically, you'd have to pedal to go faster. Trying to pedal faster than 15.5mph on a 25kg bike is not easy.
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It's not difficult to remove the limiter though - in some cases can be done by just removing the magnet from the rear wheel that is used by a sensor to calculate speed (same as most cycle computers)
 
MadMossy said:
It's because they are vulnerable that it's on you to not be the arse and stop to let them past safely, and to likewise not force yourself past them down a narrow lane. Because if for whatever reason you did just that and one or all of them ended up in the ditch, you'd then be liable for reckless driving and endangerment.
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Nah, you can kill cyclists and get barely a slap on the wrist. Anyone who is a cyclist and follows this topic knows that unless you intentionally crash into a cyclist then you won't get much more than a short ban if that. Even when you kill a cyclist you are unlikely to get more than a year or two in prison at most and probably lose your license for couple of years.

But yeah, its the cyclists that need reigning in.
 
I_M_Weasel said:
To maintain 18/mph on a mountain bike (I'll use mine as an example) 29" wheel 32/12 you would need to maintain a cadence of 90. That is a high cadence to hold, pro racers aren't much higher than that and are on skinny smooth tyres on non draggy bikes and covered in lycra.
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26 with a 42/12 I think.
 
I_M_Weasel said:
To maintain 18/mph on a mountain bike (I'll use mine as an example) 29" wheel 32/12 you would need to maintain a cadence of 90. That is a high cadence to hold, pro racers aren't much higher than that and are on skinny smooth tyres on non draggy bikes and covered in lycra.
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A cadence of 90 is about right - spin to win :)
I averaged a cadence of 88 over about 9,000 miles

The size, , shape, weight of bike, shape of tyres, clothing has no influence on cadence, it's down to the person pedalling.
 
MadMossy said:
Then you have an illegal bike and enforcement of the current laws should absolutely be held.

My garmin bike computer uses GPS.
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Who's in a position to officially check if ebikes have been illegally modded or straight up had an illegal kit put onto a regular bike.

The deliverooers use them as crappy electric motorbikes.
 
Hotwired said:
Who's in a position to officially check if ebikes have been illegally modded or straight up had an illegal kit put onto a regular bike.

The deliverooers use them as crappy electric motorbikes.
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Bike shops? A bike shop I know checks and if there modded refuses to service them
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Indeed, but at least they can be tracked and held to account much more easily…or at all.
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The outcomes are generally less severe if a cyclist does it though. They're not going to wipe out a family of 4. Probably just themselves.
Karma rules.
 
If anyone wants some context as to why its so much fun being a cyclist on UK roads:

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Motorist speeding at 80mph before he killed schoolboy cycling home jailed for five years

"You drove at 80mph — a speed which is breathtaking": Judge Lord Mulholland told Sami Ula Jabbar who was also disqualified from driving for 12 years
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5 years for killing a 16 year old doing 80 in a 30. Will be out in 2.5 years after doing something that was almost guaranteed to result in someones death eventually.

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Speeding lorry driver who killed 71-year-old cyclist jailed for seven months

The motorist, who reportedly “just didn’t see the cyclist”, had experienced a near miss with a van driver minutes before the fatal collision
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Lorry driver jailed for 7 months for killing a cyclist

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Drug driver sentenced to 21 months in prison for killing cyclist – seconds after using his phone to text friend

Kornel Marcinek was also driving over the speed limit and without insurance when he fatally struck 33-year-old cyclist Joe Burton from behind
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21 months for speeding, being on drugs and texting while driving and killing a cyclist

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Driver who told cyclist “I’m going to kill you” before ramming him with car jailed

Judge told Bradley Harris he had carried out an “appalling piece of deliberate dangerous driving” when he knocked Michael Edge off his bike
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Jailed for 10 months for using his car to intentionally hit a cyclist after shouting that he would kill him.

And for those that say there are no repercussions for cyclists.

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Jail for pavement cyclist who rode off after fatally injuring pensioner

Stewart McGinn lied to police, telling them he'd stopped to help Elizabeth Jayne Stone, who sustained a broken skull
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Jailed for 10 months for knocking down and killing a pensioner by riding on the pavement.
 
SDK^ said:
A cadence of 90 is about right - spin to win :)
I averaged a cadence of 88 over about 9,000 miles

The size, , shape, weight of bike, shape of tyres, clothing has no influence on cadence, it's down to the person pedalling.
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I think they all matter - what cadence could you achieve if the bike weighs 1000kg, has square wheels?

I can see 90 is doable, but to say it's easy to achieve, well I don't agree. You could shift to easier gear, but if you want to maintain the same speed, you need more cadence and into numbers that can't be sustained.
 
Hotwired said:
Who's in a position to officially check if ebikes have been illegally modded or straight up had an illegal kit put onto a regular bike.

The deliverooers use them as crappy electric motorbikes.
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The police, it’s really quite obvious when one has been modded. They only have to ride it for a few minutes to check it’s top speed.

It’s also their job to do it.

Note, they are not illegal to own, just ride on the road. You can have all the power you want on private land.
 
Dis86 said:
The outcomes are generally less severe if a cyclist does it though. They're not going to wipe out a family of 4. Probably just themselves.
Karma rules.
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This is what far too many people don't seem to have any sense of. This is also why the punishments for bad driving are so laughable. You are driving a 2+ tonne weapon at speed and if you do something stupid enough then the consequences are massive. It should be a privilege to hold a licence and all this crap about not banning people because they need to get to work should stop. If you cared that much then you shouldn't drive dangerously. No one should risk their lives because another person can't take the care and attention driving requires.
 
I_M_Weasel said:
I think they all matter - what cadence could you achieve if the bike weighs 1000kg, has square wheels?
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Cadence is just how fast (RPM) you turn the pedals; so even if the bike weighed 5tons and had triangle wheels, it's possible with the right gearing to turn the pedals any cadence you like.
 
fez said:
This is what far too many people don't seem to have any sense of. This is also why the punishments for bad driving are so laughable. You are driving a 2+ tonne weapon at speed and if you do something stupid enough then the consequences are massive. It should be a privilege to hold a licence and all this crap about not banning people because they need to get to work should stop. If you cared that much then you shouldn't drive dangerously. No one should risk their lives because another person can't take the care and attention driving requires.
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i also got ran over by a car so there's that LOL
 
jonneymendoza said:
No this is incorrect. the road tax money is whats used to pay for road maintenance etc
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I'm sure I've seen you in cycling threads and I'm gobsmacked you don't know who pays for the upkeep of the roads - everybody even pedestrians who don't drive, cycle or ride horses.
Road Tax was abolished by Winston Churchill in 1937.

I do agree with Insurance though.
 
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