Nurse arrested for murdering babies

One psychologist connected to the case told the Mail Letby was a 'covert narcissist'.

Having been at the centre of her parents' universe for so long, she craved the attention she had received since childhood and, once she was living away from them, needed to find it elsewhere.

I feel sorry for parents tried to raise a nice girl seems she turned into the physco cat lady though.
 
It literally isn't. Just last week what about the case where he'd been in jail for years. If we had the death penalty he'd be dead!
It literally is. Totally different case as well. People really think an whole life tariff is better than death penalty on the off chance someone is innocent are deluded. Just saying you are against killing other humans or the death penalty doesn't work and pointing at America would be better.
 
It literally is. Totally different case as well. People really think an whole life tariff is better than death penalty on the off chance someone is innocent are deluded. Just saying you are against killing other humans or the death penalty doesn't work and pointing at America would be better.

So you're saying that the Birmingham Six were guilty?
 
I don’t think the state should have the right to kill any of its citizens, imprisonment yes - but killing them, no.
I can't recall whether it was Belfast or Dublin but one of the gaol/jail tours explained how the executioner was essentially a travelling murderer. He'd get immediately tried at court, fined a quid, banished for a number of months and be sent on his way. Loophole to get around the state murdering argument :D
 
It literally is. Totally different case as well. People really think an whole life tariff is better than death penalty on the off chance someone is innocent are deluded. Just saying you are against killing other humans or the death penalty doesn't work and pointing at America would be better.

Are you aware that when someone is sentenced to death, it's not usually a quick process. There are typically numerous appeals that can take years, even decades, to work their way through the legal system. If we take the states in the US that still have the death penalty, for example, the costs associated with the death penalty, including lengthy legal proceedings and the cost of maintaining death row facilities, can exceed the cost of imprisoning someone for life without parole.

I'd imagine in the UK it would be even more laboursome and stringent.
 
Are you aware that when someone is sentenced to death, it's not usually a quick process. There are typically numerous appeals that can take years, even decades, to work their way through the legal system. If we take the states in the US that still have the death penalty, for example, the costs associated with the death penalty, including lengthy legal proceedings and the cost of maintaining death row facilities, can exceed the cost of imprisoning someone for life without parole.

I'd imagine in the UK it would be even more laboursome and stringent.
Indeed that is the case. Actually all of these wrong convictions that people cite would never have made it to the death penalty due to the timescales involved.
 
It is in some cases.

Are you saying that people who have been accused and found guilty in this country of murder and then released after being exonerated, actually deserved to die if we had the death penalty?

A difficult call, like much of civilising the human existence.

Difficult calls are not the forte of the modern generations.
 
Are you aware that when someone is sentenced to death, it's not usually a quick process. There are typically numerous appeals that can take years, even decades, to work their way through the legal system. If we take the states in the US that still have the death penalty, for example, the costs associated with the death penalty, including lengthy legal proceedings and the cost of maintaining death row facilities, can exceed the cost of imprisoning someone for life without parole.

I'd imagine in the UK it would be even more laboursome and stringent.

In the UK there was not a long process at all. It was a matter of weeks by law.

If we had had the death penalty there is no doubt in the last thirty years that 10s of people would have been killed who were innocent!
 
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