NVIDIA 4000 Series

GoogalyMoogaly · 31 Jan 2023 at 00:03

Maybe companies are thinking outside the box, but maybe it's early stages so they're buying themselves time with the tried and trusted method.

von Humboldt · 31 Jan 2023 at 00:06

Thing is, we'll have to pay £2K for the box.

humbug · 31 Jan 2023 at 00:11

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Maybe companies are thinking outside the box, but maybe it's early stages so they're buying themselves time with the tried and trusted method.

The size of the PS5 was a subject of ridicule, now we have GPU's that big.... and that's only 450 watts.

They don't seem too bothered at the moment.

Grim5 · 31 Jan 2023 at 00:21

There is no GPU the same size as a PS5

Also, the PS5 is stupidly big for no reason - no only does it have protruding curves that serve no purpose other than wasting space but the heatsink and cooling solution inside the case is larger than it needs to be because going into the generation gamers told them they want the quietest possible system and Sony overkilled it

andybird123 · 31 Jan 2023 at 00:22

humbug said:
Well, Intel are thinking outside the box and innovating again.

By releasing GPU's at the level of something released 6 years ago, that's innovating?

humbug · 31 Jan 2023 at 02:08

andybird123 said:
By releasing GPU's at the level of something released 6 years ago, that's innovating?

CPU's i mean, my fault this is a GPU thread.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 31 Jan 2023 at 02:50

andybird123 said:
By releasing GPU's at the level of something released 6 years ago, that's innovating?

They're approximately price/performance competitive with the market, even though they have nothing at the high end. For a first-gen release I'd say that's pretty innovative. Lets see what they manage by the third release, if they stick it out.

andybird123 · 31 Jan 2023 at 04:15

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
They're approximately price/performance competitive with the market, even though they have nothing at the high end. For a first-gen release I'd say that's pretty innovative. Lets see what they manage by the third release, if they stick it out.

Being price performance competitive in a market that is literally stagnant for over 4 years now is also not innovating in the slightest. Given that even the person who first made the comment has just completely thrown in the towel and said they meant in CPU's not GPU's I'd say your beating a dead horse

JediFragger · 31 Jan 2023 at 07:56

Grim5 said:
There is no GPU the same size as a PS5

Not far off lad (4090 Strix)

Besty · 31 Jan 2023 at 08:50

humbug said:
Is it just me or is everyone-else also just getting bored of increasingly silly GPU's?

Yeah but, Port Royal.

Need a 350 watt GPU with 16GB vram that goes like stink but the rollout of such a GPU seems glacial.

The COVID hangover will be gone by September but its going to be a long ass wait.

SpellowHouse · 31 Jan 2023 at 09:37

SpudMaster said:
What are you basing 4070ti sales on? I'm not saying your wrong because I haven't looked in a while but I was under the impression that no ones wants them and they are just gathering dust on shelves. Just having a quick look now and all retailers seem to have nearly all models in stock. They don't seem to be selling well at all.

Basing it on what the rumours seem to be. The general feeling seems to be that sales are down only because of the PC slowdown but other than that the 4070ti is doing OK. The 4080 on the other hand is not, but then that's probably entirely down to the price. It seems that people will spend £900 on a card if they can afford it, no matter what number it has as it's name.
I have to say that if I was in the market for a card and was looking at the 4070ti then I would find the extra money for the 4080. The crippled memory of the 4070ti is just a huge turn-off for me.

Grim5 · 31 Jan 2023 at 09:38

JediFragger said:
Not far off lad (4090 Strix)

Now turn it sideways and tell me again how it's the same size

Strix 4090 (card you show) size:

358mm length
149mm width
70mm height

Aka it's 3.7 litres of volume

Ps5 size:
390mm length
260mm width
104mm height

Its shape isn't perfect rectangle, so I have to Google it's volume - its 7.2 Litres

Therefore the PS5 is double the size of that graphics card.

So tell me again how it's the same size

humbug · 31 Jan 2023 at 10:15

Don't take it so literally @Grim5

Besty · 31 Jan 2023 at 10:34

busy in the office today @Grim5 m8?

that 4080ti is not going to pay for itself.

Nexus18 · 31 Jan 2023 at 10:42

humbug · 31 Jan 2023 at 10:47

Besty said:
busy in the office today @Grim5 m8?

that 4080ti is not going to pay for itself.

Are you mobile? can you see his signature? he's already gone one better

Take nothing away from the 4090, its a great card, of course it is.... but this whole situation is boring and irritating, and its not just Nvidia...

Besty · 31 Jan 2023 at 10:55

I think I switched signatures off in 2003 :cry:

SpudMaster · 31 Jan 2023 at 10:55

SpellowHouse said:
Basing it on what the rumours seem to be. The general feeling seems to be that sales are down only because of the PC slowdown but other than that the 4070ti is doing OK. The 4080 on the other hand is not, but then that's probably entirely down to the price. It seems that people will spend £900 on a card if they can afford it, no matter what number it has as it's name.
I have to say that if I was in the market for a card and was looking at the 4070ti then I would find the extra money for the 4080. The crippled memory of the 4070ti is just a huge turn-off for me.

I saw a MLID video the other day and he was stating that sales are very bad. That was based on retail sales in the US but he didnt mention the German retailer as it was going against what he saw in the US.
I wouldn't be paying that much for a card with a 192bit memory bus thats for sure!

Looking at 6800xts on OcUK, prices have gone up again. £650 if you want a two year+ old card now. Gibbo, Jensen and Lisa really like to shaft us this gen

SpellowHouse · 31 Jan 2023 at 11:02

SpudMaster said:
I saw a MLID video the other day and he was stating that sales are very bad. That was based on retail sales in the US but he didnt mention the German retailer as it was going against what he saw in the US.
I wouldn't be paying that much for a card with a 192bit memory bus thats for sure!

Looking at 6800xts on OcUK, prices have gone up again. £650 if you want a two year+ old card now. Gibbo, Jensen and Lisa really like to shaft us this gen

I must confess that I am not sure what to believe. You could well be right that they aren't selling as expected. It is kinda typical of NVIDIA to be motionless through all of this.

humbug · 31 Jan 2023 at 11:06

Besty said:
I think I switched signatures off in 2003

Are they that annoying? :cry:

SpudMaster said:
I saw a MLID video the other day and he was stating that sales are very bad. That was based on retail sales in the US but he didnt mention the German retailer as it was going against what he saw in the US.
I wouldn't be paying that much for a card with a 192bit memory bus thats for sure!

Looking at 6800xts on OcUK, prices have gone up again. £650 if you want a two year+ old card now. Gibbo, Jensen and Lisa really like to shaft us this gen

And even that is what's reasonable these days, i'm going to accuse myself of bashing Nvidia when i say this but an RX 6800XT is a similar price as the 3070Ti, ###### £650+, never mind the performance difference between the two its delibratly built in obsolescence is already in effect and its still above its retail price? Oh come on Nvidia WT_....?????!!!! Whose still buying these at that money? they are a £500 card and that's being generous. its an RX 6800 none XT equivalent, only worse...

AMD it is then....