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We need better quality games before we buy expensive hardware.
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We need better quality games before we buy expensive hardware.
Actually, I will disagree with this.We need better quality games before we buy expensive hardware.
We need better quality games before we buy expensive hardware.
Actually, I will disagree with this.
More people need to buy more better hardware, once an bigger and the pc space needs to have a bigger install base of adequate specs, then developers can put a bigger budget in.
Price is the biggest issue here.
A bit of both - yes better games should intice people to upgrade. But we need better value performant hardware to do so.
Remember Crysis? The 8800GTX? The XBox 360 launched in late 2005,together with the PS3. The XBox 360 had the first unified shader dGPU in production,and the PS3 had an Nvidia 7900 series based GPU. The 8800GTX launched a year later and made the X1950XTX/7950GT look weak.
A year later we had the 8800GT/8800GTS which had most of the performance of the 8800GTX at lower resolutions,just in time for Crysis. The 8800GT was 40% of the price of the 8800GTX($240 IIRC). The HD3850 brought the performance of the X1950XTX/7950GT to a bargain basement price($179). The consoles cost $400.
So that happened within two years of that console generation happening. The 8800GT/HD3850 cost almost half as much as console.
We are coming onto three years since the current generation consoles are launching. The best we have from the new generation under £450,will be the RTX4060TI/RTX4060/RX7600XT 8GB cards. The consoles start at just under £400.Enough said.
Yes its a bit of both.
But I was more referencing the utter crap state games are being released to us at the moment.
First impressions are that is a RTX 4070, looks like a 4070, smells (?) like a 4070 and performs like a 4070.
Can't fault the initial unboxing "experience".. maybe that's where all the extra cost has gone??
They're even kind enough to charge you a premium price too, now that's customer careOne thing you can't fault nVidia on is the presentation and quality of the FE cards (including the packaging) - pictures don't do it justice at all just how premium the materials and design looks and feels in person.
Thats my main gripe with the x90 Ti. Launches way too late in the cycle to the point you are just 6 months away from the next gen x70 card matching it in performance.I think they will have a 4090ti at some point. Like last gens though they seem to bring it out really late, too near the next gen launch.
Isn't everyone doing that though? Why does the 7900XTX cost almost identical to the 4080 when it does not have the RT performance, does not support DLSS and has an inferior encoder.They are like Apple,wanting to skimp on hardware as much as possible to increase margins.
The RX7900XTX priced is high because the RTX4080 is joked priced. 16GB for over £1000. You can get that for under £500 in 2023.Thats my main gripe with the x90 Ti. Launches way too late in the cycle to the point you are just 6 months away from the next gen x70 card matching it in performance.
I am still not that sure about the probability of 4090 Ti. As it stands the 4090 is currently in a league of its own. There aren't even any leaks of it looemlast time. In Cyberpunk, it's almost 30 FPS ahead of the 4080 which in itself is slightly faster than 7900 XTX. What I can see them doing is just calling it a Titan charge 3-4 grand for it.
Isn't everyone doing that though? Why does the 7900XTX cost almost identical to the 4080 when it does not have the RT performance, does not support DLSS and has an inferior encoder.
While I agree the mid range value seems garbage this gen, it's clear AMD and Nvidia have the sales data indicating their upselling strategy is working. Otherwise they wouldn't release such bad cards
The RX7900XTX priced is high because the RTX4080 is joked priced. 16GB for over £1000. You can get that for under £500 in 2023.
Only twice that of a £250 RX480 in 2016. These so called high end cards are a joke. Both should be under £800.
Also the need to use upscaling from day one shows you how weak these cards are. Neither of them can justify their pricing. Consoles need upscaling because they use weak and cheap hardware. It's not really something to brag about on £1000+ cards.
The irony is the RTX4090,is as you say OK looking.
But even that has technically a worse tier than the RTX3090.
Wouldn't surprise me if both are found to be price fixing in the future.
That's a bit debatable. On one hand, depends how you see these cards, on what resolution they should be running at. For instance, 4070 is more like a 1440p card where it does fine natively. 4080 also does decently at 4k. RT will be, for obvious reasons, a problem without upscaling unless playing at lower resolutions.Also the need to use upscaling from day one shows you how weak these cards are.
Inflation is relative to a country/industry and there is also deflation on products which is also happening on day to day products (not to mention things like RAM, storage), just that people don't focus much on it...6 Royal Gala apples should be £1.50 from M&S like they were a couple of years ago, they are now £3.
Home energy x3......gfx cards are in line with everything else. Even 2nd hand stuff costs more than it did a couple of years ago.
If you don'tneedwant it, then like anything, just don't buy it. NV & AMD aren't reading your posts like you'd hope and will drop the prices. Only when the impending recession fully lands will prices come down, and relatively the £££ will be the same as we'll all have less buying power. No company or business cares about those that can't afford it. There's always the cheap end of the range.
Only people needing these cards are those with high res & refresh rate panels to run. Easy way to make PC gaming cheap is to cut your cloth and run a resolution you want to afford. Or, get a console for <£500 that has 16GB of RAM (even though it only accesses 10-12 directly for gfx).
notice how the refinement on the funnel edges on the MK5's is slightly better than the MK4's (and yes that is a reference)...![]()
Inflation is relative to a country/industry and there is also deflation on products which is only happening on day to day products (not to mention things like RAM, storage), just that people don't focus much on it...
Same goes with GPUs and, most importantly, we don't know how or IF the BOM of the cards was affected (which shouldn't be that significant anyway). R&D was already done previously and other costs would also go down.