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NVIDIA 4000 Series

g67575 said:
Since when?
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Since forever I think. The XTX is 15% faster than the XT. The 4090 is 45% faster than the xt. So the difference is 3 times bigger, meaning the 4090 - if it was an amd card, would be 3 tiers above the XT and 2 tiers above the xtx. How much do you yhink it should have been priced with that in mind?

Also RT performance... yeah that's not even close between the 2 cards.
 
There's maybe more of a case for it purely at 4K with RT at max.

Which seems a bit niche to me.

Presumably, a similar story with the 4090 TI when that eventually appears.

Otherwise, I'd say not so much.
 
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g67575 said:
Charging £1,579 for a GPU will do that.

Just to clear something up, the 4090 is not good value.

It costs around £9.40 per frame at 1440p (based on 1% low of 168, MSRP price).

The RX 7900 XT costs around £5.76 per frame at 1440p (based on 1% low of 130, price £750).

At 4K, cost per frame is £9.61 for the RX 7900 XT and £13.73 for the 4090.

If they drop the price of the RX 7900 XT further (e.g £700), the value of the 4090 will look even less favourable.
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I think they can easily do so if they wished, just look at the 6950xt dropping down to £650 at one point, even though it was a EOL product i would pick one up at that price if that happened to the 7900xtx!
 
MartinPrince said:
Of course the 4090 is not "good value". As has been said, the top tier card never is. It is only made to look decent value by the stupidly high prices of the GPU's below it!
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Not even true really. The cost per frame is lower on the RTX 4080.

The cost per frame of the RTX 4080 is £7.24 at 1440p (at £1050 - cheapest pre order price on OC UK).

At 4K, it's £11.66.

It seems feasible that the 4080 will drop to £1,000.
 
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g67575 said:
Not even true really. The cost per frame is lower on the RTX 4080.

The cost per frame of the RTX 4080 is £7.24 at 1440p (at £1050 - cheapest pre order price on OC UK).

At 4K, it's £11.66.

It seems feasible that the 4080 will drop to £1,000.
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What are you prattling on about? What precisely is not even really true?
 
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g67575 said:
Not even true really. The cost per frame is lower on the RTX 4080.

The cost per frame of the RTX 4080 is £7.24 at 1440p (at £1050 - cheapest pre order price on OC UK).

At 4K, it's £11.66.

It seems feasible that the 4080 will drop to £1,000.
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Think about total cost of computer. How much would a PC that you'd put a high end gpu cost? Around 1k I'd say, not including the monitor. Adding an xt to that computer would bring the price close to 2k euros, adding a 4090 would cost 50% more than that, while offering close to 50% more performance.
 
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Not so sure, the 4060Ti 16Gb is coming in at $499, which is just idiotic, and has cemented me choosing the 4070 over it. As soon as it hits £500 or less I'm grabbing one
 
Those tflop numbers, appear to be claiming double the previous generation - but I'm not seeing similar increases in any other performance metric. Are they screwing with the definition, single precision tflops or something?
 
q974739 said:
Those tflop numbers, appear to be claiming double the previous generation - but I'm not seeing similar increases in any other performance metric. Are they screwing with the definition, single precision tflops or something?
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Tflop definition has changed through the years by both Nvidia and AMD. It's best to be completely ignored and rely on actual benchmarks.
 
4060Ti is looking grim. Sad really because the 3060Ti was arguably the best card of the last generation.

The whole 4000 series has been a real disappointment outside of the 4090. Makes me wonder what 5000 will do. It will have to be a substantial improvement. Can’t have the 5060ti being 10% faster than a 4060Ti which was only 8-10% faster than a 3060Ti :S
 
Not sure what @JediFragger finds funny about my post? Care to explain?

rare said:
4060Ti is looking grim. Sad really because the 3060Ti was arguably the best card of the last generation.
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Definitely the 3060 with it's 12Gb of VRAM i feel. but yes the 4060Ti 16Gb is looking pretty bad unless they boost those clocks. I don't care if they increase the TDP by 10w to do it to match the 3070Ti. But the that price of $499 is just insane. It should be $450 at most
 
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