NVIDIA 4000 Series

gpuerrilla · 26 May 2023 at 13:57

How long did you think it would last @SirPsychoZe0 ?

Alt0153 · 26 May 2023 at 13:59

he will be getting a new card next gen for sure

Ayahuasca · 26 May 2023 at 14:02

SirPsychoZe0 said:
Pulled the trigger on the Gainwood 4090 at £1499 as a crazy impulse buy. Don't quite have the money, but decided to use savings and will recover a good chunk from sale of my 3080.

I don't think that price I'd a good deal, and the 4090 should be around £1,250 for me, but given my 4k 144hz needs, only 10GB of VRAM on the 3080, and slight concern that Nvidia will redirect future chips to AI and just take a slow sale / high margin approach to existing dGPU stock, I thought "**** it".

With 12700k, 32GB RAM and now this, and no burning desire for RTX, hopefully I won't be upgrading for a very, very long time...

Nice, you're doing it wrong though. You're meant to buy one and then justify it by telling everyone you only did so because of the AI technologies.

Kelt · 26 May 2023 at 14:04

SirPsychoZe0 said:
Pulled the trigger on the Gainwood 4090 at £1499 as a crazy impulse buy. Don't quite have the money, but decided to use savings and will recover a good chunk from sale of my 3080.

I don't think that price I'd a good deal, and the 4090 should be around £1,250 for me, but given my 4k 144hz needs, only 10GB of VRAM on the 3080, and slight concern that Nvidia will redirect future chips to AI and just take a slow sale / high margin approach to existing dGPU stock, I thought "**** it".

With 12700k, 32GB RAM and now this, and no burning desire for RTX, hopefully I won't be upgrading for a very, very long time...

Good choice, if I was getting a 4090, I'd be getting this one.

Let us know how you find it.

SirPsychoZe0 · 26 May 2023 at 14:09

gpuerrilla said:
How long did you think it would last @SirPsychoZe0 ?

Based on benchmarks, and my propensity to turn off wasteful graphics settings, I'd expect to be getting 120 fps on all my games at 4k at the moment. Going forward, I don't mind DLSS 2.0 on Quality settings, so I think I could stretch it further in the future with that. I genuinely think 4 years for my whole rig is doable. There's nothing beyond 4k 144hz (8k and 240hz have diminished returns not worth the cost, plus I'm hitting the age of 'natural anti aliasing' with me eyes!), so its going to be game engined which push things for me. I still don't see a killer RTX application in games, so with that off yeah I think 4 years.

Purgatory · 28 May 2023 at 10:09

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1662698994051723265

gpuerrilla · 28 May 2023 at 10:22

Jensen's real thoughts regarding gamers:

TNA · 28 May 2023 at 10:24

Purgatory said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1662698994051723265

Do you think that would be worth anything on ebay? :cry:

If it were me, I would do the same. Get him to sign and after the picture say thanks Jensen, this means a lot to me, but it would mean a whole lot more if you stick some more vram on it next time

Troezar · 28 May 2023 at 10:26

To be fair Jensen is doing what's best for Nvidia, it's their customers that fuel the behaviour

It's same when people complain about the politicians but they are voted in by the public. Both of them are well aware the average consumer is an idiot :cry:

throwaway4372 · 28 May 2023 at 11:17

Good comparison with politics because it's the same lack of choice. 2 choices, both not really what you want. Nothing you can do about it.

Purgatory · 28 May 2023 at 11:21

throwaway4372 said:
Good comparison with politics because it's the same lack of choice. 2 choices, both not really what you want. Nothing you can do about it.

Not true.. In the case of Nvidia or any other company flogging products... You just don't buy and they will quickly get their act together in time.

Politics well go out and vote next time then or well demonstrate or get into politics to fix the issues..

Always a choice. Just need to make the right one at the time.

Troezar · 28 May 2023 at 11:23

throwaway4372 said:
Good comparison with politics because it's the same lack of choice. 2 choices, both not really what you want. Nothing you can do about it.

Similar but there is something you can do and that it to not entertain either. Of course that means sacrifice and they know most people would rather someone else make the sacrifice. In political terms it means voting for a small party and risking getting someone you really don't want or starting your own party. In GPU terms you either not game or buy the least worst option, I bought a last gen card. I should have probably bought nothing.

TNA · 28 May 2023 at 12:10

Troezar said:
To be fair Jensen is doing what's best for Nvidia, it's their customers that fuel the behaviour It's same when people complain about the politicians but they are voted in by the public. Both of them are well aware the average consumer is an idiot

Yeah, but would be worth saying that just to see the look on his face and hear his response.

Would probably be on the lines of we have an option available for you that has more vram called the 4090 :cry:

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 28 May 2023 at 12:25

TNA said:
Yeah, but would be worth saying that just to see the look on his face and hear his response.

Would probably be on the lines of we have an option available for you that has more vram called the ~~4090~~ 4060TI 16GB

FTFY!

Purgatory said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1662698994051723265

Still nice of him to engage with some of his fans.

Rroff · 28 May 2023 at 13:12

Purgatory said:
Not true.. In the case of Nvidia or any other company flogging products... You just don't buy and they will quickly get their act together in time.

Politics well go out and vote next time then or well demonstrate or get into politics to fix the issues..

Always a choice. Just need to make the right one at the time.

Unfortunately very difficult to get people to come together on these things - happened with my home town football club - the owner wasn't running it for the best interests of the club and basically laughing at the fans for their impotence to do anything about it - some even defended him, most were like "that is the way it is we'll have to live with it" - took a long time to get people to come together in a concerted effort to starve the owner out but when finally people did he was gone within days.

Murphy · 28 May 2023 at 13:34

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Still nice of him to engage with some of his fans.

Not disagreeing but the fact that a CEO can have 'fans' is part of the problem IMO.

StriderX · 28 May 2023 at 13:37

Until someone can knock Nvidia down in AI there's not a great deal that retail dGPU plebs can do about it since Nvidia could just as easily conclude it's not worth it at all to serve this market.

Neil79 · 28 May 2023 at 16:32

I went into the *** store to trade in some retro games, nearly £150 in voucher and I saw TWO 4070 RTX cards for around 600/700 and I was SO tempted :cry:

Jay85 · 28 May 2023 at 16:35

Neil79 said:
I went into the *** store to trade in some retro games, nearly £150 in voucher and I saw TWO 4070 RTX cards for around 600/700 and I was SO tempted

But then you saw the light and came back to reality!

JediFragger · 28 May 2023 at 19:41

Neil79 said:
I went into the *** store to trade in some retro games, nearly £150 in voucher and I saw TWO 4070 RTX cards for around 600/700 and I was SO tempted

not a bad deal for two of them tbh...