No idea. We will see. What we can count on though is AMD copying whatever Nvidia does and giving a tiny discount. Lovely.
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No idea. We will see. What we can count on though is AMD copying whatever Nvidia does and giving a tiny discount. Lovely.
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We need an opposite of 'Super' cards for this generation, maybe 'Lousy' would work.
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Then as per TPU adjusted:
4080 is 49% faster, 71% more expensive.
4090 is 96% faster, 129% more expensive. (perf adjusted as per you)
71/49 is 1.45
129/96 is 1.34
Difference is 7,59%.
The lower the ratio the better and should be seen as a better price/performance gain vs 3080.
Now take into consideration that you'll need the latest CPU to take advantage of that, maybe add the cost for 4090 of a newer PSU, possibly A/C unit
)Anyway, under 8% difference is nothing. Ergo, if 4080 is awful, so is 4090.
LE: my numbers look at the general picture. For 3080 owners I guess isn't that great.
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Starfield - Story Trailer | Xbox Games Showcase 2023
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Looks impressive. Not sure a 4070 or below can handle it in its glory? Surely 4060 won’t be able to run this?!
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You blame the iceberg for the titanic don't you.
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In your example, Nvidia is the iceberg (1st on the market), Titanic is AMD who chose to cross its path, knowing all the details, but still considering will do fine.
Starfield - Story Trailer | Xbox Games Showcase 2023
Bethesda gives us a new look at Starfield's story and gameplay. Take to the galaxy to find artifacts and unravel the mysteries of the universe as you travers...
Looks impressive. Not sure a 4070 or below can handle it in its glory? Surely 4060 won’t be able to run this?!
Really want to play this, but I'm a Playstation man so PC it will have to be. Surely this will need some grunt though the old 1070 is going to have to be upgraded but to what, uurrgggghhh! Was going to wait for an actual GPU that was not a complete rip off but who knows how long that will be, worst timing ever!
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Maybe 7900xt or 4070ti
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Wait until the game is launched and buy the GPU that performs best considering your budget.
Yeah I imagine if Nvidia is delaying till 2025 then as if by magic AMD will delay also as they can't release a GPU until Nvidia sets the price, Lisa probably calls Jensen before each release and asks him what the MSRPs should be.
wondered what people's thoughts please on something demanding like FS2020
3060 TI more grunt - less VRAM
3060 - more VRAM slightly less grunt
4060 - only 8gb VRAM - but could DLSS 3 frame gen really help on a title like FS2020 ?
they are all +/- £30-40 from each other
3060 TI more grunt - less VRAM
3060 - more VRAM slightly less grunt
4060 - only 8gb VRAM - but could DLSS 3 frame gen really help on a title like FS2020 ?
they are all +/- £30-40 from each other
What CPU do you have? FS2020 is heavily CPU-limited.
On a Ryzen 5600X with an RTX 3070 I think I got around 40-60 fps @ 1440 with max settings (this was a while ago, no DLSS).
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I would also make sure you get a decent NVME SSD too.
Seeing as its going to be an AMD sponsored title without DLSS then a 6700XT, 6800/XT or 7900XT depending on your budget are likely to be the best options.
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eh? He is blaming everyone else but nVidia.
Then as per TPU adjusted:
4080 is 49% faster, 71% more expensive.
4090 is 96% faster, 129% more expensive. (perf adjusted as per you)
71/49 is 1.45
129/96 is 1.34
Difference is 7,59%.
The lower the ratio the better and should be seen as a better price/performance gain vs 3080.
Now take into consideration that you'll need the latest CPU to take advantage of that, maybe add the cost for 4090 of a newer PSU, possibly A/C unit
Anyway, under 8% difference is nothing. Ergo, if 4080 is awful, so is 4090.
LE: my numbers look at the general picture. For 3080 owners I guess isn't that great.
I am not going to argue with your numbers but you are not taking into consideration that the fastest card available always has a price premium.
If you are buying a 4090 there is nothing faster that you need to consider but with a 4080 there is and it has to be clear and obvious it offers better performance/£ or why buy it. With previous gens there was an exponentional price increase with performance but with this gen it is a much flatter curve and much worse value in the mid range when compared to the top dog.
Thankyou yes to be fair that will be the limiting factor this is on my HTPC that may occasionally be used for FS2020 but I think I should stick for that game to my Series X as the CPU in my HTPC is a Xeon 1225v3 4 core no multithreading so by far limiting factor
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Nvidia is at fault, no doubt about that. However, one cannot just say is nVIDIA's fault for AMD's high price. No, AMD chose that path themselves.
Personally I'd say customers choose these paths, on the Nvidia front customers have shown they're willing to pay inflated prices and on the AMD side customers have show they weren't that interested in cheaper cards.
As demonstrated by Nvidia gaining and AMD loosing market share over the past decade when that was typically the trend.