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NVIDIA 4000 Series

The £50 price rise was to do with the exchange rate between the $ and £ changing, As for the cards disappearing, Anything is possible now, Maybe they'll release a rebranded 4090 as 4090 Super and the older 4090 will be EOL.
I think there is scope for that, isn't the 4090 only about 85% of the full chip?
 
Plenty still happy to pay so the question from Jensen's point of view in the current climate (Ai craze) is, why not?

Moores Law is Dead seems to think AI demand is fluctuating a bit and Nvidia are worried about if demand tempers off they would have to rely on their poor value gaming line up, hence the Super series.

Who knows if there's any truth to that.
 
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There's definitely scope for them to justify increase the price +15% in that case lol.

It will probably come back at £1999 lol.

The only way Nvidia is selling a fully enabled die for £1999 is if it's a tiny limited batch as they can already sell the Ada 6000 which is about 95% of the full die for near £10,000, Selling an even more enabled die for £1999 would be immensely stupid from a business perspective unless it is a limited run of a few hundred units.

Is there any chance that the 4080 Super will come close to the 4090 in terms of performance, or is it just too far away in terms of the chip's technical characteristics?

Get the current 4080 bench figures and put another 10% on top and you'll likely be close to what the results will be, So somewhere halfway between a 4080 and 4090.
 
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I think there is scope for that, isn't the 4090 only about 85% of the full chip?
The 4090 only uses around 89% of the full chip, for reference last gen the 3080ti used 95% and the 3090 used 97.6% so plenty of room to slot more cards in.

To show how far downgraded the 4080 is this gen it uses just 53% of a full AD102 CUDA complement compared to a 3080 which had 81% of the full GA102 cuda, for reference a 3070ti and even a 3070 used 57% and 54% so Nvidia has still got people still paying crypto prices for what is essentially a 70 class product.
 
Unless there is a meaningful price cut to go with the cards it will just be a big fat meh as far as I am concerned.

Need to see a slightly improved 4070 Ti with 16gb for £599, otherwise it's meh in my book.
 
Unless there is a meaningful price cut to go with the cards it will just be a big fat meh as far as I am concerned.

Need to see a slightly improved 4070 Ti with 16gb for £599, otherwise it's meh in my book.

Yep, I'd buy it at that price too! Looking to upgrade for my new oled :D
 
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Moores Law is Dead seems to think AI demand is fluctuating a bit and Nvidia are worried about if demand tempers off they would have to rely on their poor value gaming line up, hence the Super series.

Who knows if there's any truth to that.

The amount of stuff the fella makes up and gets wrong, I am surprised anyone still gives him any of their time.

I used to love all the rumour stuff. Stopped all that years ago. People give nice summaries here anyway :)
 
I expect there will be a slowdown in AI sales for Nvidia next year as they are really the only ones to have made any decent money out of the AI boom so far.
 
Isn't the 4080 Super meant to use AD102 ? Could be why 4090FE's are pulled from the site for the time being while supply of the AD102 for the 4080 Super builds up.
To be a meaningful improvement, it would have to - if it was the full config of AD103, it would only add 512 shaders.


Not sure if posted, but rumours are that 4070Ti Super is supposedly 8448 Cuda cores so that will have to be a cut down AD103 part.


I posted a table with all the different Die configs and some of the rumoured leaked specs here (seems like ages ago but still relevant):
 
Is there any chance that the 4080 Super will come close to the 4090 in terms of performance, or is it just too far away in terms of the chip's technical characteristics?
Nope.. Just a fully enabled AD103. And not much left to enable so don't expect anything amazing. 5% max probably and with maybe faster VRAM and a slight oc to the core.
 
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Nope.. Just a fully enabled AD103. And not much left to enable so don't expect anything amazing. 5% max probably and with maybe faster VRAM and a slight oc to the core.
Yup, nothing for 4080 to be concerned about tbh. Same amount of vRam kills it for me!! But I guess AD102 is just far too valuable at present to dip into.
 
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4090 founders editions are no longer on the nvidia website. Does that mean I’ve missed the boat?

I’ve seen it go in and out of stock over the last couple of weeks but it would normally just show out of stock but now it’s disappeared completely.

The only founders edition I could buy is the 4080…
 
4090 founders editions are no longer on the nvidia website. Does that mean I’ve missed the boat?

I’ve seen it go in and out of stock over the last couple of weeks but it would normally just show out of stock but now it’s disappeared completely.

The only founders edition I could buy is the 4080…
they’ve probably run out of space in the warehouse for any other cards with the all the 4080 stock thats been piling up for the past year.
 
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